Need help> 01 dbl cab prerunner trd offroad

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got_titan

Discussion Starter · Feb 28, 2010

hello ct, i recently bought an 01 double cab prerunner trd offroad. i was very unhappy with the ride and thought the shocks were dead....and they were. i replaced with the rancho 9000's and soon found out with a little searching that the trd offroad has progressive rate front springs and they are way to stiff for me. i want a smoother ride and believe if i was to get some non trd springs i would be ok? my question is what configurations of front springs will interchange into my 01 dbl cab prerunner? im looking to purchase a complete coilover set from a stock vehicle....also someone has mentioned ome 880's comfort springs but i dont want to lift my truck any....thanks for any help! john

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Enola Gaia

· #2 · Feb 28, 2010

Are you sure the issue is specific to the front coils?

You should be able to transplant front base level (non-TRD; non-progressive) coils from a V6 non-TRD PreRunner or 4X4 Double Cab. The 6-lug front coils are differentiated by engine type (4-cylinder versus V6). I'm not sure if 4-cylinder coils would be 'softer' or not.

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Orange DragOne

· #3 · Feb 28, 2010

Just curious, what kind of vehicle(s) did you drive before you got the tacoma?

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got_titan

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 28, 2010

Orange DragOne said:
Just curious, what kind of vehicle(s) did you drive before you got the tacoma?

well, i have several vehicles....i had a 96 tacoma 4x4 and thats what im comparing this tacoma too....i also have an 04 nissan titan and a 07 mazdaspeed 3. my 96 was much more softer suspension wise..i was running kyb gr2 shocks and struts and it rode great....my current tacoma is stiff, very stiff....i can only guess its the front coil springs...also my 96 tacoma ext cab did not have the huge overload leaf like the dbl cab has....

thanks for the help, as i have posted this question everywhere and ct is the only help i have recieved...i really appreciate that and will spend my time here....

also could i swap coilovers from an ext cab 4x4 v6 into my dbl cab?

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Enola Gaia

· #5 · Mar 1, 2010

I'm relatively confident you can swap in front coils from another PreRunner. Since there are no obvious differences in the associated components, I'm presuming the coil length is identical (or at least 'for all intents and purposes'). Since the coils are differentiated by cab and engine type, this indicates they're designed with regard to overall weight. Based on this, I'd suggest limiting the options to a 6-lug Tacoma of the same (2001 - 2004) generation with a V6 - either an XtraCab or a Double Cab.

... But there may be a bigger issue here ...

I'm a bit queasy about your uncertainty that the stiffness entirely results from the front coils. Unless you have specific reasons for believing the stiffness is worst in the front, I'm concerned you may be trying to change something that isn't the actual problem ....

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got_titan

Discussion Starter · #6 · Mar 1, 2010

Enola Gaia said:
I'm relatively confident you can swap in front coils from another PreRunner. Since there are no obvious differences in the associated components, I'm presuming the coil length is identical (or at least 'for all intents and purposes'). Since the coils are differentiated by cab and engine type, this indicates they're designed with regard to overall weight. Based on this, I'd suggest limiting the options to a 6-lug Tacoma of the same (2001 - 2004) generation with a V6 - either an XtraCab or a Double Cab.

... But there may be a bigger issue here ...

I'm a bit queasy about your uncertainty that the stiffness entirely results from the front coils. Unless you have specific reasons for believing the stiffness is worst in the front, I'm concerned you may be trying to change something that isn't the actual problem ....

im open to any discussion that would point me in the direction of my problem? the trd offroad's have progressive rate front coils. i thought that would cause an overall stiff, harsh ride? if i am overlooking something please let me know...why would a 96 4x4 ext cab tacoma ride much better than a prerunner trd offroad dbl cab with the same shocks if its not the coils? i drive this truck 100 miles a day and just want it to ride as good as my 96..thanks again, john

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Enola Gaia

· #7 · Mar 1, 2010

My main concern is whether there's specific reason to believe the front is the sole source of the stiffness.

Are we talking 'stiff' in terms of handling, or in terms of 'bouncy-ness' when hitting bumps? If it's the latter, is the front end noticeably 'stiffer' than the rear? For example ... If you hit a bump, does the front hit harder than the rear?

As far as why it's noticeably different from your earlier Taco ...

Your 1996 4X4 had different length rear leafs, and it was lighter (being an XtraCab). Toyota did some suspension redesign effective with 2001, and this may also be a factor.

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got_titan

Discussion Starter · #8 · Mar 1, 2010

Enola Gaia said:
My main concern is whether there's specific reason to believe the front is the sole source of the stiffness.

Are we talking 'stiff' in terms of handling, or in terms of 'bouncy-ness' when hitting bumps? If it's the latter, is the front end noticeably 'stiffer' than the rear? For example ... If you hit a bump, does the front hit harder than the rear?

As far as why it's noticeably different from your earlier Taco ...

Your 1996 4X4 had different length rear leafs, and it was lighter (being an XtraCab). Toyota did some suspension redesign effective with 2001, and this may also be a factor.

thanks for your wisdom, and the truck overall seems more harsh. i can deal with the rear but when hitting bumps or holes with the front it jars the whole truck and even the dash...its more in terms of bouncy-ness. the front does feel stiffer than the rear. looks like i can use coilovers from a dbl cab non trd and a dbl cab 4x4.

anybody have any info on ome 880 comfort coils?

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Enola Gaia

· #9 · Mar 1, 2010

OK - this last post finally clues me in that the problem is indeed related to (if not isolated to ...) the front end. I was just trying to probe on this point to make sure you weren't focusing in on something that might not be the main problem.

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