In Dash?

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Phil R

Discussion Starter · Feb 20, 2010

So Im looking at two different models the Eclipse AVN6620 and the Pioneer AVH-P4100. I have installed the Pioneer in my buddies taco and was impressed. 7" touchscreen, 3 band eq, Sat ready. The seller for me was the fact that it was a simple toggle switch bypass and that it will display ipod audio and video. Well now that I have a decent set of money I decided to look around and came across the Eclipse. Dual DVD drives, with built in navi!,its 200 dollars but navi's a plus, a 7 band eq. The only thing is from searching around I think it will not allow for Ipod video,only audio. Am I wrong? Thats my snag line on purchasing it because I have 4 seasons of top gear on my ipod.

So here are the offsets.

Both use a toggle switch to bypass video while driving.
Both are 7" touchscreen displays
Both come with 1 year warranty

Eclipse:
7 band eq and Navi
200 more then pioneer

Pioneer:
3 band eq and Ipod video.

Which one should I buy?

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rossk35

· #2 · Feb 20, 2010

Look into the avh-p4200 that comes out next month. Its replacing the p4100 and has some better features available.

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daveds50

· #3 · Feb 20, 2010

Phil R said:
So Im looking at two different models the Eclipse AVN6620 and the Pioneer AVH-P4100.

if sound quality is an issue, then there is no question. the Eclipse are the best out of everything as far as that goes. that is based on all the AV units that have been on my bench... which is every unit ever made.

of course, if sound quality is an issue, then a regular upper end stereo head unit is better than any AV unit.

do you call an AV unit an "In-Dash" too ? i have no idea why kids call it that. all car stereos are "In-Dash"... unless you go back to the 1970's when they had under dash units.

dave

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Phil R

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 20, 2010

crutchfiel already has it. Says it has an 8 band eq? Is it a true 8 band or pioneers false 3 band eq?

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Phil R

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 20, 2010

daveds50 said:
if sound quality is an issue, then there is no question. the Eclipse are the best out of everything as far as that goes. that is based on all the AV units that have been on my bench... which is every unit ever made.

of course, if sound quality is an issue, then a regular upper end stereo head unit is better than any AV unit.

do you call an AV unit an "In-Dash" too ? i have no idea why kids call it that. all car stereos are "In-Dash"... unless you go back to the 1970's when they had under dash units.

dave

For some reason I think double-din but I always say in-dash. So no I mean double-din. And from what I've read in your post I always remember you telling people that sound quality wise double-dins are not the best which is why I was hesitant to send you pm on your thoughts. The thing is I dont like the way that a single din looks or fits. Just not a good dash kit out there for a single din setup. And my friend had an older double-din eclipse and friggin loved it. I do remember from reading that Eclipse has some of the best sound quality to offer in the medium priced range HU.

However you know the install on my rig dave or at least I hope you remember it. So would the Eclipse make that big of a difference if Im running bi-amp'd bridged mid/lows and highs?

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daveds50

· #6 · Feb 20, 2010

Phil R said:
For some reason I think double-din but I always say in-dash. So no I mean double-din.

last time someone asked me for a "Double DIN", i handed them a factory Toyota AM/FM/CD/Cassette unit. rofl

hey... thats exactly what they asked for. :evil:

what you are looking for, is an AV/Nav unit. that is the real name of it.

yes, the AVH-P4200 has a real 8 band EQ... however, the Eclipse still sounds better.

dave

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Phil R

Discussion Starter · #7 · Feb 20, 2010

daveds50 said:
last time someone asked me for a "Double DIN", i handed them a factory Toyota AM/FM/CD/Cassette unit. rofl

hey... thats exactly what they asked for. :evil:

what you are looking for, is an AV/Nav unit. that is the real name of it.

yes, the AVH-P4200 has a real 8 band EQ... however, the Eclipse still sounds better.

dave

Im glad I could make you laugh today. So go with the Eclipse then. Is there anyway to stream ipod video through the unit that Im looking at? My budget originally was for 500 bones but then I stepped it up to 700 for the Eclipse. Is there anything else out there that might be worth taking a look at for an AV or AV/Nav unit?

Edit: it does have an Aux in video if I remember correctly so I guess I could do an ipod to 3 rca hook up on top of the ipod interface.

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daveds50

· #8 · Feb 20, 2010

Phil R said:
So go with the Eclipse then.

if i personally had a use for a unit like that, thats what i would do.

but i am too critical about sound quality, am not going to sit in a vehicle and watch a movie when my home theater is way nicer than any car system, and i am not lost as long as i am in the USA.

dave

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Phil R

Discussion Starter · #9 · Feb 20, 2010

Yeah I get where your coming from. I just do a lot driving being here in Phoenix so it would be nice to pop in some stand-up or a nice downhill vid like SEASONS to zone out to in the backround and im not set on NAVI but it is an added bonus.

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Phil R

Discussion Starter · #10 · Feb 21, 2010

So went with Dave's advice because, well, he's always right and bought the Eclipse AVN6620 as well as the I-POD interface, an I-POD audio/video cord, and a toggle switch. Total of 650 out of pocket with free shipping and a 9 month warranty!

Speaking of which Dave my friend told me that Eclipse is actually getting out of car audio and that pioneer might be doing so as well? That pioneer might get out in the aftermarket realm and only do factory style work?

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daveds50

· #11 · Feb 23, 2010

Phil R said:
So went with Dave's advice because, well, he's always right and bought the Eclipse AVN6620 as well as the I-POD interface, an I-POD audio/video cord, and a toggle switch. Total of 650 out of pocket with free shipping and a 9 month warranty!

Speaking of which Dave my friend told me that Eclipse is actually getting out of car audio and that pioneer might be doing so as well? That pioneer might get out in the aftermarket realm and only do factory style work?

good choice on the head unit. im sure you will be happy with it.

i also have heard the Eclipse thing... i have not heard about the Pioneer thing though... thats kinda hard to believe seeing on how much product they sell.

thats all ok with me though... i should retire anyway.

dave

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Phil R

Discussion Starter · #12 · Feb 23, 2010

daveds50 said:
good choice on the head unit. im sure you will be happy with it.

i also have heard the Eclipse thing... i have not heard about the Pioneer thing though... thats kinda hard to believe seeing on how much product they sell.

thats all ok with me though... i should retire anyway.

dave

Yeah my buddy that worked for ultimate told me that there aftermarket sales aren't as high as they used to be in car audio and that they might pull out but weren going to announce a decision till the end of next year.

As for the AV/NAV unit, found it on ebay from wooferetc_outlet for 599 with a 9 month warranty. Not to bad again thanks for all your help. And you can't quit man who the hell am I going to get true audio advice from?

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