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How to engage the locker at any speed

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2.2K views 16 replies 6 participants last post by  fluff  
#1 ·
K, I decided to figure out how the LOCKER ECU figured out that I was going to fast to engage it since it blinks faster when I am above 5MPH, so I made a quick little run over to my nearest Toyota Stealership. After the typical service writer tell me that what I wanna do won't work and that he can't help me with the wiring (thanks Rodland Toyota in Everett), I decided to get my usual unquestionable help from Magic Toyota in Edmonds.....by going straight to the shop and getting a tech. After printing out the wiring diagram, there is a green/orange strip wire coming out of the LOCKER ECU, which reads the speedometer. Cut that wire coming out of the LOCKER ECU, and either run it to a ground, our just loop it right over to the black/white strip wire coming out of the LOCKER ECU. Baam!! Locker works anytime I push the buttom, you just still need to do the occasional left-right action. I know, I know.....the pin is small that locks the rear, but now I can lock it without having to come to a complete stop practically to get it to engage, just don't try it while cornering - that would probably be bad! Later guys!

PS - Emphasis on the LOCKER ECU, not the VEHICLE ECU...you never know with some people!
 
#5 ·
Sure, there is probably some safety reason behind it, but that is why I said don;t do it turning corners or at speed or something. I have tried it while cruising around doing 60 or so, all it does is a SLIGHT little bump, if anything, when it comes on. Plus, it makes me a little more ready for the the jump when cruising up on somebody while rolling down the freeway and knowing that I am putting all the power down to ground...without having to come to a complete stop.
 
#7 ·
The mod you speak of is the "grey wire" mod.
The only thing doing this allows is for the 4x4 guys to lock the rear diff in 2wd.It's not going to change the speed in which the locker operates.
And from past experience the pre-runner T.R.D. pkg will NOT disengage at any speed. I have a 4x with the mod and i've been over 100 m.p.h. with it locked.But you must almost completely stop to engage the rear locker "softly".
 
#8 ·
No this is not the "grey wire" mod, as this is a completely different pin, but we are talking about the same harness. I guess you could call this the "green/orange strip wire" mod as this allows the locker to be engaged at any speed. My truck, my choice, I break it, I buy it
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#9 ·
What do you mean it won't make a difference anyways? I am not sure I understand your context in that answer. Like I said, turning a corner or while boosting, I am sure it isn't good for the button to be hit, becuase in either situation, one wheel will be spinning faster than the other. But while cruising along at 60, both wheels spinning, at the same speed, where is the harm in inserting a pin to make sure both wheels move at the same time. Straight line engagement, minimal wear.......Turning or burning the tires of while boosting engagement....hard shock to the rear and real bad wear. I don't understand why I am getting critisized on "modding" my truck, I could argue all day long how SHOVING 7,9, or 11 PSI into a high compression motor is bad, yet we rant and rave how great it is. All I wanna do is have both wheels spinning while doing a run, is that so bad. I imagine no worse than having them both spinning while jumping
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whoops and putting a hard shock on both wheels when the truck lands sideways on one tire, then the next tire, all while under power. My .02
 
#10 ·
naw man, think you took fluffs comment the wrong way...
he was saying there's no point in engaging at 60mph because our trucks don't produce enough power to make even one wheel spin at that speed. feel me?
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critisizism isn't always a bad thing as long as it's constructive, right? I think you've done a good job with researching all this on your own, just hope everything stays in one piece for ya.
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-ComaJoe
 
#11 ·
K, I got it
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. I know I can spin the tires at that speed, but I would think it is still better to have both wheels going when for sure when I wanna play with someone on the freeway.
 
#12 ·
in all honesty, i really dont think it matters if youre already goin at freeway speeds, it really only matters on launches and out offroading, prolyl some other things but not to sure on the freeway
 
#14 ·
i could see that use in some mud or a dirt road hehe i love driftin on dirt roads or sharp curves.
I love drifting too but I still lock it up at very low speeds before I get moving.

I think it's basically a safety precaution for off roading. If you were to hit the gas and get one wheel spinning at whatever mph over 5 and hit the switch to engauge it, that may be bad for the unit. Obviously if one wheel were spinning at 60 mph and you hit the switch, the rear would prolly grenade bigtime. I'm not saying anyone here would be stupid enough to do that but for some run of the mil ignorant toyota owner who doesn't understand how it works, I could see somebody doing it and bring it in for warrantee work. That's what the 5 mph thing is for, to prevent people from doing something that will prevent them from driving home..

Now, with that being said, I would see how it would be nice to engauge it at lower street speeds, not highway speeds, if you're pulling up to a red light next to some punk who you want to introduce to the SC'd v6. It doesn't look normal to turn the wheel, creep forward til it locks, and then turn it back before the light turns green. But sometimes I think it's nice for them to hear it snap into the locked position
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#15 ·
K, I got it
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. I know I can spin the tires at that speed, but I would think it is still better to have both wheels going when for sure when I wanna play with someone on the freeway.
When I said "let us know if something breaks", I mean that it would be a good idea to let us know if something happens so someone else doesn't make the same mistake. I'm not criticizing your mod and I do appreciate where you're coming from. I'll do this mod too for the reasons above but I don't see a SC v6 prerunner dcab spinning the wheels at above 5 mph, let alone 60, especially w/o fuel mods.

On dry pavement without a spare or rear bumper, my truck has only broken loose once while rolling less than 10 mph and it lasted about 2 seconds. This is on new asphalt, the hardest paved surface to hook on. I have broken it loose near the top of 2nd and 3rd with it locked but this is in the rain and it is fun but very dangerous and I wont do it again. You do not want to do this unless you're tempting fate.

All the locker does is offer traction, it doesn't make your truck faster after 60' from a dead stop. In other words, it offers nothing beneficial at highway speeds unless off road
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#16 ·
i could see that use in some mud or a dirt road hehe i love driftin on dirt roads or sharp curves.
I love drifting too but I still lock it up at very low speeds before I get moving.

I think it's basically a safety precaution for off roading. If you were to hit the gas and get one wheel spinning at whatever mph over 5 and hit the switch to engauge it, that may be bad for the unit. Obviously if one wheel were spinning at 60 mph and you hit the switch, the rear would prolly grenade bigtime. I'm not saying anyone here would be stupid enough to do that but for some run of the mil ignorant toyota owner who doesn't understand how it works, I could see somebody doing it and bring it in for warrantee work. That's what the 5 mph thing is for, to prevent people from doing something that will prevent them from driving home..

Now, with that being said, I would see how it would be nice to engauge it at lower street speeds, not highway speeds, if you're pulling up to a red light next to some punk who you want to introduce to the SC'd v6. It doesn't look normal to turn the wheel, creep forward til it locks, and then turn it back before the light turns green. But sometimes I think it's nice for them to hear it snap into the locked position
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i have no locker.