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I am planning on buying Street Tacos 3/4 lowering kit and had a question on the BJ flip...will this have any affect on my alignment or any of the front end geometry?
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Major effect..
Changes the entire geometry
and will throw your toe completely off..
can this be remedied with an alignment? I just put $450 in tires on the truck and dont care to grind em down. I drive 150 miles a day for work.
can this be remedied with an alignment? I just put $450 in tires on the truck and dont care to grind em down. I drive 150 miles a day for work.

i think you can take the shims from behind the UCA and that will fix the camber issues....
Would I be better off to go with the DJM kit that includes the new Uppers? Sorry for all the lame questions, just learning all this stuff.
Would I be better off to go with the DJM kit that includes the new Uppers? Sorry for all the lame questions, just learning all this stuff.
If you can find a set, go for it. Just don't get them if you're gonna do bags in the future, they don't get along with bag setups.
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You should really use the seach feature on the website.

A normal front end alignment will correct most of the geometry issues.
Most people go with dropped springs and a bj flip. In that case you will want to go with aftermarket UCA's or modify your stockers.
Attached is a photo of what I do with all my drops.

(lengthened and angled):waytogo:

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Upper arms aren't needed and only raise the cost of that DJM kit. They used to offer their kit with both upper and lower arms, but quit making the lowers and changed it to the b/j flip hardware kit instead. You can easily go to 5" in front on the stock upper arms and still have alignment shims in. I have a standard cab with the flip and Belltech lowering coils and was running no shims and realized I was getting wear on the outside of my tires, so I reset the toe and put a thick shim behind every bolt and I'm on 6 months and no weird wear at all with 255/35/18" on a 9" wheel. You will be alignable with a 3/4 drop and stock UCA's. You'll just simply remove the correct amount of shims to get it into spec.

My kit comes with instructions for the home alignment which will allow you to go get a real alignment and not worry about your tires on the way there. Longer arms are nice, just not necessary. There are a bunch of us with stock arms and no weird tire wear. (myself included)
Upper arms aren't needed and only raise the cost of that DJM kit. They used to offer their kit with both upper and lower arms, but quit making the lowers and changed it to the b/j flip hardware kit instead. You can easily go to 5" in front on the stock arms and still have alignment shims in. I have a standard cab with the flip and Belltech lowering coils and was running no shims and realized I was getting wear on the outside of my tires, so I reset the toe and put a thick shim behind every bolt and I'm on 6 months and no weird wear at all with 255/35/18" on a 9" wheel. You will be alignable with a 3/4 drop and stock UCA's.

My kit comes with instructions for the home alignment instructions which will allow you to go get a real alignment and not worry about your tires on the way there.
Thats the info I was looking for! For where I am now a 3/4 is all i want, no bags, nothing fancy just a small drop and the same ride quality. I do too much driving on the highway to have to fight it. Basically drop it and forget it!
Beefed, I will be contacting you...
Thats the info I was looking for! For where I am now a 3/4 is all i want, no bags, nothing fancy just a small drop and the same ride quality. I do too much driving on the highway to have to fight it. Basically drop it and forget it!
Beefed, I will be contacting you...
I'm not trying to diss the DJM kit, it's a good kit. But honestly the uppers aren't necessary for a 3" front drop. You'll get the same effect from my kit and save about $150 while you're at it. My 3/4 kit is the perfect platform for any future drop you'd want to do. Just add coils and a leaf setup (and c-notch) and you're down to a great daily driving 5/6". :waytogo: I know others that are well beyond 3" in front and running stock uppers will chime in...like YankeeTaco and a few others. It's when you go to 3" of drop from the coils, and have the flip that the arms become necessary.
You have the same philosophy as myself with a drop. But seriously I started with a 3/4 drop and I just cant stop going lower!:meemee: I just flipped 272,000 miles and I do commute alot and Im at 6/8 drop. I never have to fight anything and my driving style is all about having a great daily driver.:waytogo:
You have the same philosophy as myself with a drop. But seriously I started with a 3/4 drop and I just cant stop going lower!:meemee: I just flipped 272,000 miles and I do commute alot and Im at 6/8 drop. I never have to fight anything and my driving style is all about having a great daily driver.:waytogo:
And you have stock uppers and no signs of bad tire wear right Manny? Possibly even a shim or 2 in there? I know your one of the lowest static trucks on here too.
With only a flip and all shims out i was negative 1 degree on the camber.
No way i could do a 5" drop and still have shims.
Thats correct never have had no such tire wear!:meemee: Its all about doing it right, having the expert fab/suspension guru! :bow: You know I want to go lower in the front without getting the QA1's.:looney: I want to keep everything stock with my LCA's and UCA's!:headbang:
You have the same philosophy as myself with a drop. But seriously I started with a 3/4 drop and I just cant stop going lower!:meemee: I just flipped 272,000 miles and I do commute alot and Im at 6/8 drop. I never have to fight anything and my driving style is all about having a great daily driver.:waytogo:
I can relate to not being able to stop...what started as a simple 55 gallon salt water tank is now built into the house, plumbed to the garage, 240 gallons and about $12K, but that's different story.
I guess I should recant and say a 3/4 is good for now!
Yes I agree its easy to keep going... But I tell you with all the work Beefed had done with my suspension/fab/mods I havent come close to $1000!:headbang:
So I will be going with the 3/4 kit from Beefed. Straight forward works for me.
yeah 3/4 is a good mild simple drop i was driving like that for a year now im 5/7 just let beefed know when u wanna go lower.:waytogo:
Yes I agree its easy to keep going... But I tell you with all the work Beefed had done with my suspension/fab/mods I havent come close to $1000!:headbang:
Thats a plus for sure. Hell, the only reason I can even entertain the thought of messing with the truck is that I am done building the aquarium....that thing is a money pit.
Yes I agree its easy to keep going... But I tell you with all the work Beefed had done with my suspension/fab/mods I havent come close to $1000!:headbang:
thats so true :waytogo:
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