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Old 01-09-2013, 07:37 PM   #1
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Hey guys, i need help picking the right shocks for my new setup im doing. I have toxic shocks currently on my cut springs setup. I'm purchasing belltech springs but want to buy the shocks at the same time so all ship together. So my new setup im going for the front will be doing 2" Belltech springs and Beefed Taco ball joint flip kit. Since i know it will raise my truck up by doing this i need help with part # for shocks that would go with the setup im planning to do. Either KYB or Toxic shocks part #. Thanks !!
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:42 PM   #2
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So ... The 2" drop from the Belltech springs, plus the drop afforded by Brian's (Beefed's) kit, will add up to a net how much drop from stock height?

I'm confused about your claim this will raise you truck. Do you already have a lower stance? If so - what is the current stance you're about to change?

... And what about the rear?
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So ... The 2" drop from the Belltech springs, plus the drop afforded by Brian's (Beefed's) kit, will add up to a net how much drop from stock height?

I'm confused about your claim this will raise you truck. Do you already have a lower stance? If so - what is the current stance you're about to change?

... And what about the rear?
LOL i have no clue the drop in the front. i bought the truck with cut springs but i know for sure its slightly tucking under the fender. I talk to Brian and he said on std cab it drop only 1" in the front with the belltech and 3" with ball joint flip. So my guessing after installed 4ish to 5 inch drop.

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LOL i have no clue the drop in the front. i bought the truck with cut springs but i know for sure its slightly tucking under the fender. I talk to Brian and he said on std cab it drop only 1" in the front with the belltech and 3" with ball joint flip. So my guessing after installed 4ish to 5 inch drop.

Here a picture of my current setup
The rear has 4" blocks
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OK - I get it ... You're not certain how much drop you're starting from in the front.

It's hard to judge from the photo, but it looks like the rear is sitting a bit higher than the front (in terms of wheel well vertical clearance above the wheel / tire).

On pre-2005 Tacos the rear typically sits about 3/4" to 1.0" higher than the front. You know you have a 4" drop in the rear. If you've got about 1" more (tire-to-wheel-well-lip) clearance in the rear than in the front, I'd guess you're currently sitting at about a 4/4 drop.

If that's the case, this means the new front setup should be about the same (amount of drop) as the current one. ... Or at least close enough that it might be worthwhile to do the new setup (using the current shocks) first, so you can take shock measurements on the new setup rather than take a risk on micro-guessing it in advance.

Just my .02 ...
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OK - I get it ... You're not certain how much drop you're starting from in the front.

It's hard to judge from the photo, but it looks like the rear is sitting a bit higher than the front (in terms of wheel well vertical clearance above the wheel / tire).

On pre-2005 Tacos the rear typically sits about 3/4" to 1.0" higher than the front. You know you have a 4" drop in the rear. If you've got about 1" more (tire-to-wheel-well-lip) clearance in the rear than in the front, I'd guess you're currently sitting at about a 4/4 drop.

If that's the case, this means the new front setup should be about the same (amount of drop) as the current one. ... Or at least close enough that it might be worthwhile to do the new setup (using the current shocks) first, so you can take shock measurements on the new setup rather than take a risk on micro-guessing it in advance.

Just my .02 ...


yah that true. currently i have the toxic #411015 but i was scared it might be to short with the new setup..but if your predicting that its 4/4 drop then maybe the current shock i have on should fit. thanks again for your advice! appreciate it!
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The real way to know what shock will work is measure the top out and bottom out of the suspension .Give those numbers to the shock company . You may have to remove the front spring . The back you can load up till it hits.
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The real way to know what shock will work is measure the top out and bottom out of the suspension .Give those numbers to the shock company . You may have to remove the front spring . The back you can load up till it hits.
Thanks for the advice. Lol sucks that I already ordered all the parts today..I ended up getting the same toxic I have on right now..but if it dont work out ill just return them or sell them here. Ill take your advice if all fails and measure then go to 4 wheel parts find me a shock that fit. Thanks again!
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front
With a bj flip, your not changing the suspension travel
So all you need is a 2" or 3" drop shock up front for the cut springs and your set.

Rear
Blocks dont change the rear shocks travel legnth..
The shock mounting points are the same distance before blocks vs after.
All you did was space the axle off the leaf springs and a stock legnth shock will work.

Btw, your truck looks great!
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front
With a bj flip, your not changing the suspension travel
So all you need is a 2" or 3" drop shock up front for the cut springs and your set.

Rear
Blocks dont change the rear shocks travel legnth..
The shock mounting points are the same distance before blocks vs after.
All you did was space the axle off the leaf springs and a stock legnth shock will work.

Btw, your truck looks great!
Thanks for the knowledge..thanks but I love how your truck looks. Silver is clean and your drop is even wheel gap.
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