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Old 11-18-2009, 05:01 PM   #11
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You cannot run over 3 inches of lift on a 4x4. You will destroy CV's, BJ, TRE's extremely fast. Hell, Downey used to recommend trucks with ADD (Auto. Diff. Disconnects) be lifted 2 inches max.

Remeber that Tacomas only have 9 inches of travel (I believe). You essentially have taken away most of your up-travel. I'd crank those C/O down to 2.5 inches of lift or less. On the trail, a lower center of gravity is best.

Also, You cannot stack diff drops, which do nothing in the first place. They simply rotate the diff forward, making it more prone to rocks, cause poor lubrication, and increased leverage on the rear diff mounts; meaning you can potentially snap the rear mounts right off the diff.

Post pics of your Balljoints and CV's too btw.

Good luck!

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Old 11-18-2009, 05:41 PM   #12
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Well ****e!! That sucks...looks like my only option is to remove my extended shackles. I just bought them, they're 2" longer than stock, providing 1" of lift.

While I've got everyones attention....will I have any trouble stuffing
33-15.5-15 on her now? I'm running mickey thompson classic 2's with 30mm offset. Also, I'd like to do a body lift in the future...I was thinking 2-3". Would I have any prayer of fitting 35's after the body lift?
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:26 PM   #13
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just put a 2" body lift up front that'll level her out
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Old 12-14-2009, 01:10 PM   #14
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15.5 is a bit too wide...

stick with a 12.5 and you should be fine, but you will need 4" backspace or less, which the MT wheels should be..

as for 35s, a body lift won't completely help as the tires will still rub on the frame...

try to avoid the body lifts too... especially if you wheel the truck...
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:47 PM   #15
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yeah....12.5's not 15.5's another typo.

So I just ordered some OME 881's with Brand New OME Nitrocharger Sport 9004's (JUST OUT!!!) This should sit me up about 2". THEN.....I was thinking about a coil spacer. I'm looking at the Hell Bent Steel ones. I'm looking for the "top plate" style. I dont want to sacrifice ride quality. Problem is....Hell Bent Steel only offer 2" and 2.5" spacers. So I'll be up around the 4" mark....which will chew up my CV boots for a joke.....RIGHT?????

Am I digging myself deeper by doing this? I havnt ordered the Hell Bent Steel Spacer yet...I wanna see how the OME front set up looks first. Got any more ideas for me fellas? Am I retarded?


My Fabtech 3.5 coilovers will be up for sale as well.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:39 PM   #16
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take a before and after measurement and see how much of a difference the 881 coils make because i am interested in the coils as well and would like to know exactly how much lift you get from these. thanks
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Old 12-23-2009, 07:18 PM   #17
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What do you want for measurements? The 881's are all mounted around the new 9004's. They'll be on the truck first thing in the morning. I'm gonna take some measurements tonight before she goes under the knife in the AM.
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:49 AM   #18
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You cannot run over 3 inches of lift on a 4x4. You will destroy CV's, BJ, TRE's extremely fast. Hell, Downey used to recommend trucks with ADD (Auto. Diff. Disconnects) be lifted 2 inches max.

Remeber that Tacomas only have 9 inches of travel (I believe). You essentially have taken away most of your up-travel.
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yeah....12.5's not 15.5's another typo.

So I just ordered some OME 881's with Brand New OME Nitrocharger Sport 9004's (JUST OUT!!!) This should sit me up about 2". THEN.....I was thinking about a coil spacer. I'm looking at the Hell Bent Steel ones. I'm looking for the "top plate" style. I dont want to sacrifice ride quality. Problem is....Hell Bent Steel only offer 2" and 2.5" spacers. So I'll be up around the 4" mark....which will chew up my CV boots for a joke.....RIGHT?????

Am I digging myself deeper by doing this? I havnt ordered the Hell Bent Steel Spacer yet...I wanna see how the OME front set up looks first. Got any more ideas for me fellas? Am I retarded?
Reread my post. You cannot go over 3 inches of lift. To correct my previous post, tacomas have 4 inches of up-travel and 4 inches of down-travel. By exceeding 3 inches of lift, you're essentially eliminating all of you're travel.

Avoid any spacer that mounts to the top that is larger than 3/4 of an inch. They push the suspension out of its proper operating system because lift is only gained by essentially making the shock longer.

Lift from the OME, Bilstein 5100, and Coil-overs, come from pre-load on the spring. This is true for the spacer lifts that mount under the top-plate, but do not provide nearly the same off-road performance as the other options.

Guys have run a 2.5 inch top-spacer and done a hell of a lot more than tear a CV boot. They have destroyed the CV's entirely, as well as BJ and TRE's. The OME shock is already 1 inch longer than stock, so any top plate that is larger than 3/4 is way too much.

To get around 3 inches of lift, you should have purchased the 882's, which may be a tad stiff because you do not have an aftermarket bumper to weigh it down, but they will eventually settle to 2.75 inches of lift.

However, since you bought the 881, consider the Toytec 3/4 inch top plate, which, according to Toytec, will give you just about 3 inches of lift when coupled with the 881.

Remember, off-road performance is not from a huge lift alone. The Tacoma is extremely capable in its stock form. Add some good skids/sliders with a strong set of tires, and you can wheel a ton of trails. Consider trimming before adding lift to keep the COG low.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:13 PM   #19
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All your advice is much appriciated, and taken into account. I just got my truck back, and I gained 3/4" with the OME 881's compared to the Fabtech 3.5's all FULL CRANK.

Here's the measurments I took:

On a level garage floor, with 31" tires at 35psi, FABTECHS gave me 37-1/4" from Garage floor to top of inner fender.

The new OME 881's gave an even 38" measured at the same place.

I have no idea how much lift I gained over stock....but I'm assuming I'm at about 2" over stock. The fabtechs must have been completely worn out, because I would have expected them to give me MORE than the 881's


ALSO....I chose the 881'sover the 882's because I wanted a plush ride. I DONT have an aftermarket bumper, and I wanted to keep my ride soft. I figure that by adding a hell bent steel spacer, I wouldnt sacrifice ride quality, but still gain my desired lift.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:41 PM   #20
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All your advice is much appriciated, and taken into account. I just got my truck back, and I gained 3/4" with the OME 881's compared to the Fabtech 3.5's all FULL CRANK.

Here's the measurments I took:

On a level garage floor, with 31" tires at 35psi, FABTECHS gave me 37-1/4" from Garage floor to top of inner fender.

The new OME 881's gave an even 38" measured at the same place.

I have no idea how much lift I gained over stock....but I'm assuming I'm at about 2" over stock. The fabtechs must have been completely worn out, because I would have expected them to give me MORE than the 881's


ALSO....I chose the 881'sover the 882's because I wanted a plush ride. I DONT have an aftermarket bumper, and I wanted to keep my ride soft. I figure that by adding a hell bent steel spacer, I wouldnt sacrifice ride quality, but still gain my desired lift.
The only way to achieve more than 3 inches of lift is either the combination of a body lift and suspension lift or drop bracket lift.

Do not use those hell bent spacers. You should have just over 2 inches after settling from the 881's. The 882's do not give you a bad ride whatsoever btw. It justs makes it more firm and ride like a truck. Its not a cadillac, so the ride won't be cushy and forgiving.

If you really want to get close to 3 inches of lift, do the Toytec 3/4 top plate. Hope I've been helpful.
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