Who's the winner?

2002 Bone stock 5-speed manuel Lexus IS300? Or Supercharged V6 Tacoma?

What do i need to win?

damn, should be close. ill give the nod to you bro, all you need is the gas

nethier, the delorean form back to the future will win any car. goes so fast, it time travels. it even leaves it's trail marks on fire after burning out.

the delorean was destroyed remember? he's outta of the game son http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

Well, Motor Trend says the IS300 5sp auto hits 60 in 7.4 seconds. The stick should be quicker than that. A stock S-Runner would hit 60 in 7.2 seconds. I would have to say the supercharged V-6 if it were 2wd and 5sp.

Remember slk23022 has a prerunner, not an s-runner. He has the extra weight of the 4x4 suspension minus the front drivetrain. I think the Lexus would win.

Is yours 5 spd or auto?

I thought he was talking about a Tacoma in general, not his. Aren't all PreRunners V-6's automatic?

You can get a 4 cyl prerunner. Yeah I think the v6 prerunners are all autos actually

Now wait a minute. I've beaten a 2001 IS300, and I don't have a s/c. By the end he was catching, and he would probably beat me on the freeway, but I had him in the short mile.

i don't think the IS300 comes in manuel transmission.. maybe the 2002 models.. cause when I was looking for a new car the lexus dealer said they don't come in 5 speed... All my friends that have the IS300 all have automatic.. but anyways... I am sure off the line you would have a greater lead. but the IS will catch up and pass you

I'm only referring to his truck which is a prerunner. Does anyone know what 1/4 mile times the lexus runs? My best is 15.2 with NO S/C. I think the regular 2wd v6 S/C would win easy.

Thanks for the votes of confidence... for more specifics i was talking about my truck. My housemate just got a 2002 IS300, yes it's manual transmission.

My truck however, is a 2000 4x2 Prerunner (xcab) Auto.

So the IS300 is then slower than the Celica GT-S?

So, I guess we should find out the outcome soon. Let us know who wins.

yeah i will.. i need new tires though. In a different thread i recall talk about the passenger rear tire spinning out more so than the other rear tire. My tire is now near bald so it's totally lost it's traction.

Whats this talk about an LSD? or something to keep from slippage? Ssandbags in the truck bed?

According to Motor Trend, the 1/4 mile for an IS300 auto is 15.5 seconds. The Celica GTS 6 speed is about the same performance wise as the auto IS300. The 1/4 mile time is 15.5 for both of them. Acceleration to 60, the Celica is .1 seconds quicker.

I get all my information from Motor Trend. Each magazine gets different results when they test the same cars.

the 2002 is300 does come in a 5 spd it has 215hp and about 225lbs of torque..i believe. The s/c v6 taco should be pushing a little more than 300hp and 345lbs of torque with a k&n drop in filter and exhaust (my friend dynoed his truck) . so i'd say the s/c v6 got the upper hand.

No way, most SC tacomas dynod around 250+hp@the crank. Your "friends" tacoma has got more money invested than the average.

The Tacoma is also a slush-0-matic which is something i hadn't accounted for. Ill have to give the is300 the win...

I'll ask him again he works at jun but i do remember him saying he had about 345 lbs of torque

thats gonna be one fast tacoma, well above average tho.

btw, i noticed your 1/8 time. Not bad at all for an auto

Dude, why you always baggin on the tacoma? The 4 cyl tac will beat most v6 trucks. I think there should be a little more credit there.

oh yeah CASlim?? Why do you say that? Simply cause the body weight difference?

No, cause ford, chevy, and nissan truck are just slow. I've seen it first hand. My friend has a single cab 4cyl, and he's beaten v6 rangers and chevy extremes.

bagging? why dont you re-read my posts. We arent about other trucks, we are comparing an IS300.

Im being realistic, you should try it.

you are also basing your "opinions" on the outcomes of streetracing, which means nothing. Dynographs AND timeslips are what matter.

The 4cyl or 6cyl tacoma IS the lightest and most powerful truck in its price bracket.

I not just basing it on street racing. Look at the consumer reports, motortrend, car and driver, research it a little bit and you will see yourself. Speaking of which, motortrend shows test results of the is300 as being slower than the tacoma V6, 7.4sec/7.2sec. Supercharge the tac, and the IS won't even know what hit him.

And the point about the baggin, you're the one that said, "The Tacoma is also a slush-0-matic which is something i hadn't accounted for." Sell your tac if you don't like. You won't find another minitruck that is faster.

I interpreted that to refer to the fact that it's an automatic, which is sluggish compared to the stick, and that is true.

TRDStreetfighter has a auto. I see his point though now. The post just looked like he was not satisfied with the tacoma as a whole. My bad dark. Truths?

If your going to base opinions on magazines, THATS A JOKE. I cant tell how many inconsistances those mags produce.

Yes, Slush-0-matic refers to automatic transmissions. The Taco is a great platform is start from and thats why i love mine.

no harm no foul

Dude, slow your roll a little. I understand what you're saying. The prerunner would probably lose to the IS being that it is an auto and it is heavier. But the 2wd 5 spd is another story, and they don't make a S/C for the IS. It's a cast iron straight 6 block. By the way, where are you getting your info if you don't get from the mags? Furthermore, "Car and Driver" and "Motortrend" are not racing mags.

Yeah, both of those mags are very reputable research sources for vehicle info, I would trust what they have to say about it, they have very extensive testing and research teams. They've been doing what they do with top-reputation for quite a while. That can't be argued. Yes there are some differences with each vehicle and each driver, but the base facts remain true and that's what their research is based on.

2wd 5spd v6 IS another. I agree with you on that point. The Supercharger on the IS was a joke.

I base my opinions on Power/weight. Mags are good for their reviews but theirs 0-60 and 1/4 stats are off. I'd like to see the 60ft results, it would explain alot. They must have an old woman driving or something. Ive been on lots of Message boards like ClubSI, b15sentra.net, NewCelica.org etc and i have seen slips with way better results.

Sorry i went off on you but when you accused me of taco bashing. I got mad http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif I edited that, hit refresh.

I agree with Dark on the fact that when it comes to times and what not those magizines aren't very trustable. I do recall one of the Motor Trends doing a "best compact truck" comparison... from what i recall they put the Tacoma at a 0-60 in 9 seconds... I'll try to find the articles and stuff.

I hear ya. We all get a little sensative when it comes to the TAC. I apoligize. I know what you mean about the inconsistancy in the 0-60 times. My take on that is the different elevations. They never tell you what elevation the test at.

HEY HEY HEY GUYS!
lets look on the bright side!!!!! justin if youre taco dont out run the is300,come and pick mine up and embarrass the heck out of him!!!
you rode in it and you know just how fast my little taco really is.....
p.s.only super in my tank please, lol

Freak.. if your srunner with minor mods is faster than my 3.4L Supercharged.. then... well... them 5speeds REALLY make the difference...

And smaller tires make a difference...

and the prerunners are heavier than a regular 2wd since they have the 4wd frame and suspension.

...as much as I enjoy the 'Coma, the IS300 is the car I eventually want to own (I would really like to be able to have both http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif ). Yeah I'm biased, but a '02 IS300 5-speed should smoke a supercharged 'Coma (only if it's a Pre-Runner or 4x4, I think the S-Runners are pretty swift). A stock '02 IS300 is able to run a 14.9 quarter mile (I've seen the slip at IS300.net, another forum/page I post/lurk at). Also, TRD's IS300 pace car (which is supercharged and intercooled) puts alomst 300hp to the wheels.

Do you have a picture of the IS300 pace car?

Check it out.. once my roommate has the balls to race me, we'll see how this will play out.

I have a 2000 PreRunner SuperCharged Taco... he has a 2002 IS300 5-Speed manuel.

Now... i'll see if i get "smoked". He is a pretty skilled driver, i've rode with him and seen his shifting and such...

yeah, I was going to say the same thing..well sorta http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif a s/c s-runner would smoke that lexus...hands down!!

...of course I have a pic of the IS300 pace car http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

http://gweidenh.homeip.net:8080/forum/lexuspace.jpg

http://gweidenh.homeip.net:8080/forum/lexuspace2.jpg

...oh yeah, I got the hp figures wrong, the IS300 pace car is rated at 265hp.