Archive Mega-Thread: X-Runner Big Brakes: StopTech [Archive]

Gadget@URD

05-08-2005, 09:30 PM

Well, I installed a StopTech Big Brake kit on my XRunner today.

It was the easiest install I have ever done. It just bolts right up. No suprises at all. Start to finish about 1.5 hours with the brake system flush with DOT 4 fluid...

Then the bed in proceedure. They want you to go find a piece of road where you can quickly get up to 60 and mash on the brakes just short of ABS activation and as you decel to about 5-10, accell back up to 60 and mash on them again. Never stop totally, do this 10 times then park and let the system cool off. Then repeat the same proceedure one more time making 10 hard stops from 60.

They warn you about the smoke and massive brake fad at the 6 brake mash due to out gassing of the new pads. This process causes brake pad material to be evenly deposited to the rotor surface and is extreamly important.

Well the smell and the smoke certainly is hard to do on a brand new brake system, but that is what it takes.

When this was done I went on a 300 mile road trip to visit with the president of the VA Chap of TTORA.

The brakes righ away were tons better then the stockers. The more I drove the truck the better they felt. This is how the brakes should of been from the factory. They feel very solid and controlled with plenty of braking power. The system is very balenced. I mashed on them going around a turn to see if it would unsettle the truck. It did not and it stopped very quickly in total control.

I just ordered up a set for one of my 4Runners. More then likely I will get a set for my other 4Runner later this Summer.

Folks I am telling you that if you drive like I do, this is a very must do upgrade. There were so many times I mashed on the stock brakes going at high speed and it seemed like the truck just would not stop. Not any more. Mash on these brakes every damn thing in the truck goes flying, XM, laptop, pistol, camera and so on....

Who is going to be next to dive in??

Gadget

Gadget@URD

05-08-2005, 09:31 PM

Another pic

Gadget@URD

05-08-2005, 09:31 PM

Another

Gadget@URD

05-08-2005, 09:32 PM

Here is a comparison of the spindly stock rotor sitting on the new 332mm StopTech AreoRotor.

I know a lot of the drag racer types are concerned about adding rotational mass and that will slow down there times. That is a valid concern. The interesting thing is that even with these massive rotors they do not seem to be heavier then the stock ones. That aluminum hat takes off a bunch of weight. The massive calipers are lighter then the stock calipers. Overall there does not seem to be much of a weight penalty.

For me driving fast on the roads, I NEED BRAKES. These are GREAT!!

Gadget

Jonathan

05-08-2005, 09:41 PM

i want FI first. got a release date on that? and yes it needs brakes, i just cant pick between wheels or brakes at the moment.....

Kyle

05-08-2005, 09:43 PM

Yes, the X needs new brakes badly. However, I'm going to drop my $2400 on new coilovers and bypasses for my offroad truck. Maybe a few months down the line I'll pick this kit up. In the meantime I'll just drool over these photos.

Gadget@URD

05-08-2005, 09:46 PM

Jonathan

05-08-2005, 09:48 PM

Get the brakes. Brakes make it more fun and safe to drive. Wheels are bling and does not make it go or stop faster.

FI?? You talking about the turbo? Don't hold your breath waiting on it. We are doing so much research so we can build this thing and have it glide right through CARB. There is a lot of stupid stuff we have to plan for. I am getting to the point of saying the hell with CARB and just make it for off road use only.

Gadget

why not get it out there for us and then keep working towards CARB? then we can have our fun while its getting legalized.......i know wheels are bling, but i want to make sure you can see those pretty brakes. i did just apply for a new credit card today might have to get both............

Gadget@URD

05-08-2005, 09:49 PM

Blangkang

05-08-2005, 09:50 PM

Gadget@URD

05-08-2005, 09:53 PM

Can't see the wheels or the brakes from the driver's seat, but you sure can feel those brakes working!!!

Gadget

Kyle

05-08-2005, 09:53 PM

Yea, I know exaclty what you mean. Hell I got three trucks to mod now.

I was looking over the Total Kaos long travel kit today and drove around a bit with it. Very nice. Got to put that in the list of lots of things to do.

Got to get the StopTechs and new wheels and tires for my other 4Runner so I can get one of the production prototype turbo kits on there very soon...

Gadget

The Total Chaos kit is awesome! If you were to purchase one you would be more than satisfied. I'd love to have a long travel 4Runner and was hoping to find one, but when my '86 4x4 came along, running and complete for $500, I couldn't pass it up.

Kyle

05-08-2005, 09:54 PM

Can't see the wheels or the brakes from the driver's seat, but you sure can feel those brakes working!!!

Gadget

EXACTLY! If you want bling-bling, get a can of high-temp spray paint and paint your calipers. If you want performance, get ready to drop some $$$.

Gadget@URD

05-08-2005, 10:08 PM

CARB has to be designed in from the start. The developement costs are to high to have to redo everything again. There is only so much we can sell the kit for. If there is to much up front cost we will have to charge so much that they will just sit on the shelf with no buyers, kind of price ourselves out of the market.

Gadget

OXI

05-09-2005, 02:32 AM

So what are the dimensions of this brake system vs. the stock rotors and calipers? Are you planning on leaving the drums on the rear of the XR?

RevHard6

05-09-2005, 07:20 AM

FI?? You talking about the turbo? Don't hold your breath waiting on it. We are doing so much research so we can build this thing and have it glide right through CARB. There is a lot of stupid stuff we have to plan for. I am getting to the point of saying the hell with CARB and just make it for off road use only.

If your getting CARB approval, that is music to my ears (not so much my pocetbook though http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)!!!! Time to start saving up again. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Gadget@URD

05-09-2005, 07:23 AM

You can see in that one picture how much bigger the new rotor is compared to the spindly stock one.

The rears are working fine for now. We will see what needs to be done there that is going to be a difinate improvement in braking performance and cost effective.

Gadget

5000XD

05-09-2005, 01:56 PM

Gadget,

I've never installed a brakesystem, how hard is this to do by a novice? Is there a step by step instruction manual included?

The brakes sure look much better then those small stock plates!

Gadget@URD

05-09-2005, 02:16 PM

It is easy. No special tools needed. Everything just bolts right up no issues there at all.

The only thing is that the front brakes need to be bleed/flushed. I have a pressure bleeder which is absolutely the very best way to do it. Just pour in the fluid and connect it to the master cylinder, pump up the pressure and then crack the bleeder screws on the calipers. No fuss no muss. Here is a link to the way I do it:

http://www.gadgetonline.com/BrakeFlush.htm

Here is the installation instructions:

http://stoptech.com/installationmanuals/Toyota%20X-Runner_Front%20Installation%20Manual_98-866-1450_Rev.%20A_12-29-04.pdf

Gadget

Jonathan

05-09-2005, 02:19 PM

this is kinda an ass question to ask but SOS sells a stop tech brake as well, do you know if they are the same? (same size ect any other diff/)

uid_0

05-09-2005, 03:19 PM

I believe, correct me if I'm wrong Gadget or Brian, that URD and SOS have worked together on a number of projects. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif

5000XD

05-09-2005, 05:08 PM

Thanks Gadget! I've made a printout and keeping it standby!! http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Gadget@URD

05-09-2005, 05:25 PM

I have spoken to the owner of SOS a couple of times on the phone. I was inquiring about BBS wheels for my 4Runner and he told me about the supercharger they were doing on their XRunner. From that conversation it was my understanding that they were going to finish the hardware part and then have me help them with the fuel delivery and engine management. I never heard back from them. Then I see a post that they got it running and blew up an engine, so, I don't know if I am going to be doing something with them or not.

There is a guy in NC that is doing a ProCharger for a V8 Tundra. This thing is supposed to be sold threw SOS when and if they get it upto snuff. I talk to that guy pretty regularly helping him work through the problems he has been having with it. I believe I have given him answer to a big problem he was having.

Now that is the extent of my dealings with SOS to date.

I hope I have answered your question.

Gadget

Gadget@URD

05-09-2005, 05:38 PM

To be a StopTech dealer in good standing you must abide by their marketing agreement. Most of the companies out there are pretty much doing the same thing and that is binding their distributors to several agreements one of which is listing a Minimum Advertised Price (MAP). This prevents low overhead internet companies from undercutting shops with real storefronts and this way everyone can sell the line without being undercut by some fly by night opertion.

All the StopTech products as well as many others on the URD site are listed at the minimum advertised price. That is the price we must advertise the product for on our site. We can not "advertise" it for less without being in violation of the marketing agreement. I hope you can see what I am trying to say here...

Now if you see a StopTech products advertised on the Net for less, that would be in violation of the marketing agreement. I am sure that the owner of StopTech is aware of the companies out there that are in violation of the agreement.

StopTech does private lable their brake kits. One of the better known private lable customers is TRD. We explored having them made with URD on them, but figured that StopTech is a better recognized name in brakes then URD at least for now. That may change in the not to distant future.

As far as I know there has never been any StopTech brakes private labled starting with an "S".

Now, as far as I know the XRunner brake package that we sell is identical to the one TRD sells except for what is on the side of the caliper.

Gadget

vyking

05-09-2005, 07:05 PM

What are the chances that the brakes off another toyota (4runner, tundra, etc) would fit on the back? That way I could just go to a junk yard and get some disks for the back... Just a thought.

Jonathan

05-09-2005, 08:34 PM

Scott Bessel

05-09-2005, 10:32 PM

so then Gadget, what is the "non-advertised" price that those 'other' guys would sell them for?

All I could find was the $2195 and that is a bit steep for stopping... I really want to make it go more right now...

Kgrgunman

05-10-2005, 12:04 AM

vyking

05-10-2005, 04:57 AM

What are the chances that the brakes off another toyota (4runner, tundra, etc) would fit on the back? That way I could just go to a junk yard and get some disks for the back... Just a thought.

no others have disks in the back.

What about the Sequoia?
Brakes : Power-assisted 4-wheel ventilated disc brakes with load-sensing proportioning valve (LSPV) and Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) with Brake Assist [1] and Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD)

00yota4x4

05-10-2005, 05:00 AM

pretty sure all of them are 6lug X are 5lug

Gadget@URD

05-10-2005, 07:57 AM

so then Gadget, what is the "non-advertised" price that those 'other' guys would sell them for?

yea...what if someone called you up, could you tell that person how much someone would pay for these breaks?

If you are serious and are ready to buy and want to contact us and make an offer, please do, but please wait until you are ready to buy.

Gadget

WhtTaco

05-10-2005, 09:10 AM

Will s-runner kit fit a 1999 extra cab 4 cylinder 2wd tacoma???

Taz_X

05-11-2005, 08:37 AM

Gadget I'm interested in this brake upgrade. I love the truck but it’s too fast and heavy for the stock brakes the way I like to drive.
Does this affect the ABS? Is there any down side on this upgrade? Down the road will it be a hassle tracking down new/replacement pads?

http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Gadget@URD

05-11-2005, 05:44 PM

I don't see any downside at all. Replacement rotors are available from StopTech through us and so is caliper overhauls however both of those is not likely to be needed.

They us the standard Porche type pads and there is a large assortment of venders out there and you can get that type pad anywhere and you do not need to get them from us or StopTech.

The brakes are engineered to work properly with the ABS system so there is no issue there.

Gadget

Gadget@URD

05-12-2005, 07:18 AM

OK folks, this just in....

I have descovered and error in the StopTech installation guide for the XRunner.

The new caliper bracket that gets bolted to the hub assembly using the stock caliper bolts, those caliper bolts should have the threads coated with the locktight thread locking compound. This thread locking compound is included in the StopTech kits for this purpose.

StopTech is updating the install guide to include this step and the updated guides should be available for download from the StopTech site very soon.

For those of you that have purchased the StopTech big brake upgade kits from URD please use the included thread locking compound on the stock caliper bolts.

We will also follow up with email notifications to each of you.

Gadget

DMC

10-08-2005, 07:09 AM

I sent Stoptech an email in regards to a rear disck brake conversion kit and this was their response:

"We have been working on a rear kit for the X-Runner and the prototype has just been fit onto a vehicle and is being tested, so we do not need a vehicle. These were special kits for some high end testing and the price may make them prohibitive for production and sale to the general public. At this time, the cost would be around $6000 for the rear only upgrade. Keep in mind that not only is the drum removed, but new bearings and seals of a different design are included as is a complete parking brake assembly from another rear disc application. The parking brake assembly has to be modified to fit, involving some precision machining, and even the parking cable mechanism is re-designed and custom made, meaning custom machined levers and brackets. The caliper mounting bracket is very complex in order to adapt all the new parts and by the time all those components, as well as amortizing the Engineering costs are added up, that’s where it’s at. We probably spent several thousand dollars of Engineering time just trying to find different parts and means of driving the cost down, and there is not a better solution we have that will be properly balanced and work seamlessly. If the vehicle doesn’t stop better, or the parking brake is balking, sticking or not working smoothly, it’s not something we want our name on".

As I said, at that price, we don’t know there will be a market for them, but there it is…

Please let me know if you have any interest, the one thing I can assure you is the kit is a real piece of art and preliminary feedback is the kit is working great.

Matt Weiss

Stoptech LLC

So here's what I need: I need donations to be sent to directly to me in the amount of $1.00. I only need 6 thousand people to volunteer though...no more, no less! Haha.

Enola Gaia

10-08-2005, 08:29 AM

Thanx for taking the initiative in finding out what StopTech's doing, and thanx again for reporting the results to CT.... http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/applause.gif

eRock

10-08-2005, 08:54 AM

Hmmm... How come SOS has it listed for sale on their web site for $1295.00?

http://www.sosperf.com/tacoma_pro_series.htm

And, if you look on their Used Parts page, they're selling the demo set off their test truck for $650!

Is there something they're not telling us?
-eRock

FrEaK_aCcIdEnT

10-08-2005, 09:01 AM

i would like to see the pictures of the stoptech kit next to the sos kit. im guessing that the pictures will speak a thousand words one way or the other.

either stoptech will be better engineered and more quality, or the sos brand will show it can be done just as good cheaper.

i still wonder if the sos can be upgraded to bbk rear. they never emailed me back with the answer. probably got busy. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

DMC

10-08-2005, 09:26 AM

From what I understand, SOS's rear brake kit is made with used parts from other vehicles. It's nothing that I would feel too comfortable with(imo). Stoptech is a very reputable company, but 6 grand...
holy crap!

Jonathan

10-08-2005, 09:28 AM

hah how good was i with my 6k guess...........

DMC

10-08-2005, 09:32 AM

hah how good was i with my 6k guess...........

You da' man! I admit.

Now how about making a rear disc brake kit for us as your next project?

Jonathan

10-08-2005, 09:33 AM

hah how good was i with my 6k guess...........

You da' man! I admit.

Now how about making a rear disc brake kit for us as your next project?

by us, you mean you. i dont think anyone else would buy it http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif

Gadget@URD

10-08-2005, 09:37 AM

I am sure most of you all know that URD works directly with StopTech on a lot of different projects.

I sure wish that Toyota would of put rear discs on this truck at the factory. It just sucks that they do not.

Now, with all this talk about rear disc conversions, you have to think for a minute if you are looking for better brake performance or BLING. If you are looking for BLING then a rear disc conversion is the way to go.

If you are looking for better braking, then the whole thing is not cost effective at all. About 80% of your braking comes from the front brakes. That leaves 20% comes from the back. So, to increase the breaking performance you will have to make a huge increase in the rear effectiveness to make a difference in the overall braking performance of the whole system. Now with that said there is a serious limit on how much brake energy you can use in the rear without locking up the rear.

Now is it just my bet that envelope between the stock rears and maximum limit that would unbalance the whole system is so narrow that you will never get your moneys worth out of such a conversion on a street truck, even one that is driven aggressively.

If you are going to convert the truck into a dedicated racer then I think this is something worth doing. But in a street truck your return on your money just is not there. Put your hard earned money into something else like the front brakes or a turbo system. Do I believe what I am typing?

So, in your own words what are you hoping to gain from all your money spent on such a thing? It is your truck and you just want this no matter what the cost/benefit ratio then that is great; it is your money and truck. If you want a high BLING factor, cool. If you are looking for the last little bit of possible braking performance, outstanding! So, what is it?

Gadget

Jonathan

10-08-2005, 09:45 AM

DMC is all about the bling....hence his 22's. i do think that bigger brakes in the front and som 332 in the rear would inhance braking FEEL if nothing else. i drove a new accord the other day and could hardly drive the damn thing b/c the brakes were so touchy.......send me over a new set and ill make an adapter and fit em up out back.......

DMC

10-08-2005, 09:51 AM

Hey Gadget, I completely here what your saying. There's definitely a"bling" factor involved. But at the same time, I would also like a little more performance as well. When I see drum brakes on any car, not just our trucks, I associate that with Automotive companys just being a bunch of cheap asses, and just trying save any kind of money where ever they can. That bothers me. Like you said, It would've been nice if toyota had disc brakes in the rear set-up from the factory! This is just my opinion though, and I know everyone is different.

Gadget@URD

10-08-2005, 10:05 AM

Well, BLING it is!!!

Gadget

Gadget@URD

10-08-2005, 10:08 AM

There is more to it then just putting some disc brakes on there. The system has to be calibrated and balanced. If not this can be very dangerous.

It would be nice to put the stock rears on a brake dyno and then try to develop a rear disc system that would match that as a starting point and then start adjusting the piston size until the system became unbalanced and go back. Then you would have a nice system, but how many people making rear disc convertions do such a thing?

Gadget

KAuss

10-08-2005, 10:39 AM

6K? For some people thats about all their mods added up http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jawdrop.gif

Anywho, 4 disc and drums are way different... Everything I've driven with 4 discs stop like a dream and so far the XR and my Camry with disc / drum stops like a semi with a full load... Or a train...

Before, all my cars had at least the front wheels driving... It was vital to have good brakes up front... The XR is my first RWD vehicle and I "feel" the rears not being stopped enough during braking and the drive wheels are still pushing the truck forward... However when braking it naturally lifts the rear so I don't think you can really get away with too much brake force back there anyways... If you brake light, keeping weight in the rear, then the drive wheels do get in the way sometimes... If had you downforce, now you can lay some brakes in the back...

I don't think they're pushing 6K worth though... Even still, you can't put a price on the last few feet for stopping when you need it... http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

Still, I'd spend on a front BBK before the rears if ever (which means never) http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

Jonathan

10-08-2005, 10:44 AM

KAuss

10-08-2005, 10:46 AM

why not just get an adjustable proportion valve, give me a day on the track, and by the end of the day ill tell you where it should be set. about the load of the stock ones ect.....who says its perfect now? i think i could figure that out pretty easy. and if not me, my dad (who actually can drive).

The rears now are right on the money (for pricing)...

This is why the BBK is an "option" cause they know they skimmed out in the stop department...

Kgrgunman

10-08-2005, 02:35 PM

a few days ago i drove with between 400-500lb's in the bed of my truck and with that weight in the bed i found the truck stoped much BETTER.

i think if you just mess with the BPV and make it think you have a lot of weight in the back, you're rear breaks will be much better. plus it would be a FREE or very cheap mod.

Gadget@URD

10-08-2005, 05:46 PM

I really don't think that the sucky brakes on the XR have anyting to do with the rear drums. The truck is just under braked period. Have you driven an XR with StopTech brakes on it?

It is beyond a night and day difference. I my be completely wrong here but after you put the correct bakes in the front, you are not going to get much better by fiddeling with the rears. Find someone near you that have StopTechs and see if they will let you take it for a spin.

Gadget

Jonathan

10-08-2005, 06:43 PM

eRock

10-10-2005, 09:39 AM

KAuss

10-10-2005, 09:52 AM

I really don't think that the sucky brakes on the XR have anyting to do with the rear drums. The truck is just under braked period. ...

The more I'm driving this truck, the more I'm agreeing. I came into a 90 degree left hander this weekend way too hot and really had to stand on the brakes. The rear lost traction way before the fronts even felt like they were doing anything. I think the thing that throws me off is the weight of this truck. The awesome acceleration and cornering performance trick you into thinking like it's a lightweight sports car. Trying to bring all that heft back down to reasonable speeds in short distances is just too much for the stock brakes.

My biggest gripe right now is the lack of feel at the pedal. You can drive around weak brakes, but not when you can't tell what the wheels are doing when you're on the brakes hard. Right now it's "stand on it" and cross your fingers... hell, the ABS doesn't even fire, which tells me that the grip of the tires exceeds the grip of the brakes. I'd much rather have it the other way around.

All that said, personally I need to keep the stock brake clearance for winter wheels and tires, which rules out the Stoptech kit. I'm going to end up throwing every non-oversized brake upgrade at it (which isn't much right now). Yeah, I know, "can't have my cake and eat it too."

-eRock

Were you still lined up straight before you stomped or you stomped into the turn? What happened to you was more a wegiht transfer loss of balance than a brake distribution...

The few times that I hit ABS, I was going down hill braking straight for a red... I heel toe down shifted from 6th to 4th, then to 3rd... The steering wheel actually jolted left and right for a second towrads the last 100 - 200 feet (can't tell the distance since I had to brake for a LONG time plowing down hill)

As for ABS firing... It has to do with the wheels being stopped from spinning... When I hit ABS, you can feel the truck "let up" on the brakes to regain rolling traction and it does work... The rule of thumb for ABS has always been stomp and steer... You never let up like mechanical braking with no ABS back in the day... If feels like ass, but it saved me a few times... In a controlled enviorment, you can probably brake better with familiar brakes without ABS, but in a danger reaction situation, ABS will brake a shorter distance than you probably can...

eRock

10-10-2005, 01:14 PM

Were you still lined up straight before you stomped or you stomped into the turn? What happened to you was more a wegiht transfer loss of balance than a brake distribution...

Right - I'd agree. I guess I was talking in regards to the minimal effectiveness of a rear wheel upgrade, but I guess I didn't say it that way. FWIW, it was a straight shot.

The few times that I hit ABS, I was going down hill braking straight for a red... I heel toe down shifted from 6th to 4th, then to 3rd... The steering wheel actually jolted left and right for a second towrads the last 100 - 200 feet (can't tell the distance since I had to brake for a LONG time plowing down hill)

It's not like I was going 120mph off a long straight. There was a right hander, a straight shot maybe 3 blocks long, and then the left. I doubt if I used all of 3rd gear. I started to set up for the corner, but had to keep pushing harder and harder on the brakes to try and slow down. I could feel the rear start to swap side to side and I think the ABS back there might've been firing a little, but the front definitely wasn't. By that time I knew I wasn't going to make it and had to take evasive action. When I tried to turn the wheel with the brakes on the front end pushed, so I yanked the wheel, dropped the clutch and gassed it. 4 wheel drifted across both lanes before it hooked up. Probably couldn't do it again if I tried. I puckered so hard that there's a hole in my jeans. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Anyway, I know you can't expect a wheel to stop and steer at the same time. My gripe is how weak and mushy the brakes were BEFORE I got into that situation - I know I wasn't going that fast and those brakes should've slowed me down better. The rear end was unweighted, but the front tires didn't seem to be even close to their straight-line traction limits even though I had the pedal to the floor.

Gadget, do you sell the StopTech stainless brake line kits for the X-Runner? I'd like to support CT supporters if at all possible and I'm willing to be the guinea pig for these if nobody else has tried them.

-eRock

Gadget@URD

10-10-2005, 01:44 PM

The stainless lines for the stock brakes are being made now and should be on the URD site very soon.

Gadget

eRock

10-10-2005, 01:49 PM

The stainless lines for the stock brakes are being made now and should be on the URD site very soon.

Gadget

Sweet - any reports on their performance?

KAuss

10-10-2005, 03:37 PM

Jonathan

10-10-2005, 03:41 PM

Yeap I've been complaining about the straight line plow for the longest time... Once you're up above 60ish, and you want to do a 0, you're not going to feel the truck stop... It'll just keep going until it decides to slow down enough... Even downshifting to 2nd don't help much... It helps the last maybe 30 feet or so...

you asian right? you sure your legs are long enough to push the peddle? stock mine would stop, just not well...................

KAuss

10-10-2005, 03:48 PM

rx-runner

10-26-2005, 07:35 PM

i was wondering if the StopTech Big Brake Kit for 2005+ Toyota Tacoma 4WD 355mm would fit on the Xrunner, i wanted to know because the Xs rotors are 332mm and i was wondering if the 355 would fit

thanks
eden

Jonathan

10-26-2005, 07:37 PM

the 4wd is 6 lug, the xrunner is 5 lug. so to answer your ?, no it will not work.

rx-runner

10-26-2005, 07:42 PM

thanks

rx-runner

01-07-2006, 05:38 PM

hey i was wondering if stoptech made the brake kit for the X in a 355mm size?

bcutshall

01-07-2006, 06:13 PM

not that i know of, just the 332mm kit from them that i have found at URD

rx-runner

01-07-2006, 06:23 PM

coo man thanks alot

DMC

01-07-2006, 07:25 PM

hey i was wondering if stoptech made the brake kit for the X in a 355mm size?

Yes they do! Stoptech does make a 355 kit for the "X". Check their site...it should be listed.

bcutshall

01-07-2006, 07:34 PM

Yes they do! Stoptech does make a 355 kit for the "X". Check their site...it should be listed.

i stand corrected, they do...

FRONT KIT: 355 x 32 mm Rotor/ 4 Piston Caliper

05Xrunner

05-06-2006, 09:30 PM

Did anyone purchase a Stoptech rear disc brake conversion kit
for the X-Runner?

Gadget@URD

05-06-2006, 09:49 PM

Yes they did.

All the kits that were made where sold.

Gadget

Gumby

05-06-2006, 09:51 PM

I can't believe the cost of it.. I know drum to disc conversions require more hardware the big brake upgrades but still..... Other companies have sold rebrake conversions for allot cheaper then the one they sell...... It looks like a great kit but someone has to come out with a more affordable conversion for the truck

Jonathan

05-06-2006, 10:48 PM

i will be putting a stoptech 332 in the rear very soon........and it wont be nearly as much as stoptech sold it for......

Red X

05-07-2006, 01:46 AM

Is the rear disc conversion still available? I couldn't find any link at URD for it. And does/did it have E-brake function?

It is one of the mods I might add to the list, but I don't want to loose the e-brake.

Why not make a conversion that could use the calipers and other hardware from the back of an '05 4-runner or FJ Cruiser? Should be able to use mostly factory hardware except for the need of 5-bolt rotors. This has been done for other car brands before, and it can be very cost effective.