X-Runner: Traction Bars (General; Comparisons)

Well not being too smart mechanically... I was just wondering what exactly (or better yet how) does Traction bar keep the leaf springs from warping?

Also, why does it seem like these things are only developed in the aftermarket? Are there stock traction bars running on current trucks?

Too bored, I'm actually trying to edjucate myself...

pretty much, when you get wheel hop, the leaf is twisting, and springing back, which is the thump thump you hear. if you hold the axle in place, it cant move forward with the leaf or twist anymore. i dont think trucks come with them, but in the lifted community they are everywhere.

Thats what I suspected they do... but if this is such an easy fix to eliminate wheel hop, then why not have these stock?

most trucks arnt meant to be beat on? i dont know really, i know my prerunner had it worse than the x does when it was in sand.

Taking orders. Ship date late February.

Other trucks coming soon!!!

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Gadget

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dont have and buy two get one free deals do you........lol j.k

Awesome. I'll be getting mine in the future.

Gadget, does it make a big difference? Can you still get the rear end to hop?(not that I want it to) How well does it help with cornering?

It really settles down that rear end nicely. Makes it act just like my 4Runner with the 5 link rear axle. No skipping, hopping or any of those bad manners of a typical leaf spring axle.

Gadget

Does this require any welding at all?

No...all nuts and bolts!

No...all nuts and bolts!



Awesome. I'm definitely getting it.

Price? I don't see anything about them on the urd site.

415............lil searching but they are there on the site.

From the pics, it's just one piece of hardware right?

I've seen traction bars from other sites, I was lead to believe they are suppose to go on each side of the rear axle? Yes yes I'm a n00b...

I see it now. I swear it wasn't there last time I looked http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

When's the option for Speedway Blue powdercoating? http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

From the pics, it's just one piece of hardware right?

I've seen traction bars from other sites, I was lead to believe they are suppose to go on each side of the rear axle? Yes yes I'm a n00b...



What good would it do for Gadget to make one like everyone elses? Its different...thats why its a URD traction bar ! http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

anyone bought it yet, how well does it work

read the very first post of this very carefully........... http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

read the very first post of this very carefully........... http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif


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do you have to do any drilling holes to install? what does the install require?

if urd will ship them 2/28, then i'll put my order in 2/20 http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

it should be all bolt-on, exactly like the s-runner traction bar. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

-ComaJoe

Still waiting for my Speedway Blue traction bar http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Just wanting to know how the xr guys are enjoyin their traction bar. Did it make a big diff....

None of the production units have shipped yet.

I have been running the production prototype on my own XRunner for a while now. It tightens up the rear end nicely and stops that axle hopping when you break traction around a turn and doing hole shots.

I am pretty sure you are going to like it, ALOT!!!

Gadget

hey gadget any idea when we can get our hands on them?

Shipping soon. Place your order now so you can get yours out of the first batch.

Gadget

Any chance in getting it powder coated Speedway Blue? http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

None of the production units have shipped yet.

I have been running the production prototype on my own XRunner for a while now. It tightens up the rear end nicely and stops that axle hopping when you break traction around a turn and doing hole shots.

I am pretty sure you are going to like it, ALOT!!!

Gadget



He's gonna find a way to put that on his 2004 or else he won't enjoy it at all http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif tee hee hee hah =P http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif

hey Gadget, i was wondering if i ordered my traction bar the afternoon (around 2pm my time, 5pm east coast time) on 2-27-05 would they ship on 2-28-05?

if not, then if i place my order tonight (around 10:30pm my time, 1:30am east coast time) would they ship on 2-28-05?

basicly, when is the latest i can place my order and have them ship out 2-28-05?

Place your order when ever you want.

We hope to make the 28th ship date, but we might not make it. It will be very close though.

Gadget

any reviews yet for the traction bar on the xr yet

Right now I am the only one with it. I have been giving the prototype a good thrashing for a while now.

Here is a review for ya, I LIKE IT A LOT!!!

Gadget

have the traction bars even been sent out yet?

No, they have not as far as I know.

I found something in the front mount that was not perfect and that was changed slightly. That delayed things just a tad. When you get it, it will be perfect.

I know we have a ton of orders ready to go out and as soon as the modified front mounts come back from the powder coater they will be going out.

Gadget

still wanna know if we can get it powdercoated speedway blue http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

got an estimated time?

Yes, for a price.

It won't match perfectly of course...

Gadget

I should know that in a few days. Email us toward the end of the week.

Gadget

the problem is that i don't have the traction bar yet. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/runaway.gif
sense it was suspose to be shipped on 2/28/05 i ordered mine on 2/27/05 and i realize that they had some problem right b4 they shipped it out but now it's over a month sense i placed my order and they found the problem however they're still not shipped yet?

gadget, is the X-runner traction bar ever going to be sent out? http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doah.gif

gadget, is the X-runner traction bar ever going to be sent out? http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doah.gif



it's day 37 and so far my $450 has got me no traction bar and no word on when it is being shipped, 3 weeks ago i was told, if it's not at my door in a week to talk to you guys. i e-mailed u guys and you you said it has not been shipped out.

so when are you going to send it out, or are you just going to start handing out refunds?

I can get you a refund right now if you want it.

I will have a definate answer if or when they will ship very soon.

Sorry for the unexpected delay. I saw a small issue in the front mount that I thought we could do better on and I was right. I had the piece redone and it is perfect. That took a bit of time we did not plan on and it is my fault, but I wanted it right.

I will check and see if it shipped yet or not, should have, if not I will get your refund started right away.

Gadget

OK, here is the deal on the bars. We are waiting on one specific size bolt to go in the kit. I am told it will definately be here in the morning.

All the XRunner traction bars will start shipping tomorrow and we will have all of them out by Thursday.

Thank you for being patient, but if you want a refund I completely understand. Just let me know before it ships.

Gadget

i really want the traction bar.

i was just getting tired of waiting. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

How much extra traction do you get out of the hole with the Traction bar

Well from the factory you'll have wheel hop, where the rear axle jumps up and down (believe me, it sucks. my SC does it like MAD).. the traction bar will eliminate wheel hop.

so to answer your question, you'll get a LOT more traction http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

i dont get wheel hop taking off?

have you done a 3k rpm launch? i hope not, unless you got a few thousand miles on it all ready http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif how bout 1500rpm in the rain? I haven't gotten wheel hop yet in the X, but then again, i'm still being very easy on it.

my SC will have wheel hop in the rain trying to accellerate normally. it sucks http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

haha no need to drop it past 2k it will just go up in smoke no matter what..........no wheel hop in rain either.......ive got 4k but drove it hard since 1.

haha no need to drop it past 2k it will just go up in smoke no matter what..........no wheel hop in rain either.......ive got 4k but drove it hard since 1.



I am going to wait to see how Kadens works out then ill deside if I want one http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

in the dry i get wheel hop every now and then, about 1 out of 4 hard launches.
in the rain i get crazy wheel hop unless i take off like a 90 year old woman.

Do you think it helped your 60ft time and being able to launch it a litte harder

He doesn't have it yet.

He doesn't have it yet.



and so far that's my biggest problem with the traction bar. lol

LOL ohhh..well let me know how it is when you get it....I am considering one myself

so...did they all get shipped out?

Ok heres the bet, will Kadne get his Bar from Gadget or will I get my truck back?

Ok heres the bet, will Kadne get his Bar from Gadget or will I get my truck back?


Who's Kadne? http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif

Kaden or how ever the [censored] he spells it

::cough:: kadon ::cough::

um.... changes phone and [censored].....I knew that

anyone get there freakin traction bar yet

NO bro, soon as someone does it will be posted durrr

got to love places that sale products and their not finished.... Clear lenses and 2.4,2.7 s/c... see what happens when you rush things and take money before their done??? Bad bad bad... Sorry Kadon best of luck.... past 40 days now how does that feel?? Your gadgets bit ch now hahahaha

Ship date : Apr 11, 2005
Estimated delivery : Apr 15, 2005
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Well we will see, Then I wanna see how much better it is when I get my X and we run side by side....Given I have never ran on a track http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/runaway.gif

kgrgunman its the 15th did you get it???

::looks at date:: ::looks at the state i live in:: ::starts to realize the 15th is tomorrow::


nope i have not got it yet! and i can't figure out why http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/looney.gif

Well we will see, Then I wanna see how much better it is when I get my X and we run side by side....Given I have never ran on a track http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/runaway.gif

I wonder why...

dang my bad i didnt realize it was already past 12 here

LOL always trying to point that out arn't u?

You know it http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Gadget...I am lookin to order a traction bar within the next month and half as soon as this extra tax money shows up. I was wondering if you could tell me what shipping price would be to 15025. Also are they powdercoated black stock.
Thanks
Jon

just an update he red it in the mail two days ago on friday....

Shipping would be around $30-40 or so. To find out for sure you can fill out an order on our site and it will total everything including shipping and then you can decide to complete the order or not.

Currently, they ship painted black. You can have it powder coated if you want.

There is good powder coating and bad powder coating just like in everythig. Our bars are powder coated in a huge facility where all the parts are dipped in a cleaner, then dipped in an etching bath, then shot with the powder and cooked in a precision convaier type oven.

The only downside to this facility is that they like to do only one color a day, so if you pick a color that they are not shooting again until next week, well you got to wait.

The upside is that the quality is second to none. This is not that cheap pealing off powder coating that comes out of China that peals off in huge sheets, this is a quality job.

We are very picky about this. I have a very good friend of mine that has a powder coating business, but his quaility is not yet were we want so we are going with the big guys and paying extra for it.

Gadget

Shipping would be around $30-40 or so. To find out for sure you can fill out an order on our site and it will total everything including shipping and then you can decide to complete the order or not.

Currently, they ship painted black. You can have it powder coated if you want.

There is good powder coating and bad powder coating just like in everythig. Our bars are powder coated in a huge facility where all the parts are dipped in a cleaner, then dipped in an etching bath, then shot with the powder and cooked in a precision convaier type oven.

The only downside to this facility is that they like to do only one color a day, so if you pick a color that they are not shooting again until next week, well you got to wait.

The upside is that the quality is second to none. This is not that cheap pealing off powder coating that comes out of China that peals off in huge sheets, this is a quality job.

We are very picky about this. I have a very good friend of mine that has a powder coating business, but his quaility is not yet were we want so we are going with the big guys and paying extra for it.

Gadget


Ok thanks
I guess when that tax check comes in I will be ordering traction bar. Black is fine with me I dont care if its not any special color or not.
Thanks

Gadget I know on the website you have an option for powder coating it red. Does this place do blue as well? Want it to match the truck somewhat http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Currently that can be done. We are exploring the idea of sucking up the cost and powder coating them all red and be done with it. If we decide to do that, you can have any color you want, as long as it is red.

Gadget

I will probably be on the market for a trac bar in the next 2 months or so. I'm not into looks that much and minor details, but I do know that I will NOT want a red trac bar seeing as my truck is blue. It will just throw everything off. IMO, keep it black, everything else under the truck is. Red matches 1 in 3 of the X-Runners out there, black matches the undercarriange of every X-Runner out there.

I will probably be on the market for a trac bar in the next 2 months or so. I'm not into looks that much and minor details, but I do know that I will NOT want a red trac bar seeing as my truck is blue. It will just throw everything off. IMO, keep it black, everything else under the truck is. Red matches 1 in 3 of the X-Runners out there, black matches the undercarriange of every X-Runner out there.



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Ill be getting ine in a few months to and I wan't it black

i know i'm glad mine came in black, not really because i have a black truck, but because it does not stick out like a sore thumb, even on a red truck i'd want a black traction bar, just so it does not look weird because the whole underside of the truck is black and with a big red traction bar.

i know i'm glad mine came in black, not really because i have a black truck, but because it does not stick out like a sore thumb, even on a red truck i'd want a black traction bar, just so it does not look weird because the whole underside of the truck is black and with a big red traction bar.



yup when I order mine it's going to be black....I wanna see how urs does at the track first http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Well, that makes perfect sense.

One thing you may want to think about is, no one is ever going to see it. You got to almost lay down on the ground to look up under the truck to see the traction bar. The ground effects hide things really well.

OK, so, we will keep things like they are now. Painted black, with powder coating on request.

Gadget

One thing you may want to think about is, no one is ever going to see it. You got to almost lay down on the ground to look up under the truck to see the traction bar. The ground effects hide things really well.



That's partially my point, it can't be seen easily. However, it will still out underneath a blue truck. Also, if URD would have to "eat" the cost of the red powdercoating, you might as well save the money and keep it the way it is. Thank you for considering our request, its great that you listen to all potential and loyal customers. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

One thing you may want to think about is, no one is ever going to see it. You got to almost lay down on the ground to look up under the truck to see the traction bar. The ground effects hide things really well.



That's partially my point, it can't be seen easily. However, it will still out underneath a blue truck. Also, if URD would have to "eat" the cost of the red powdercoating, you might as well save the money and keep it the way it is. Thank you for considering our request, its great that you listen to all potential and loyal customers. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif



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so did anyone actually get one yet

Well, if we don't give you what you want, you all won't buy it. So damn straight we are going to listen to you all.

Gadget

I hope when i order mine they are still in all black...I have a blue Xrunner and would look weird

i got mine, and it's sitting in my living room as we speak.
i hope to be installing it this weekend.

i got mine, and it's sitting in my living room as we speak.
i hope to be installing it this weekend.



NO....get a flashlight and go put it on right now...LOL

ok, will do, and if i don't get it done in time, i guess i'll just walk the 30miles to school...up hill...in the snow...in palm springs, lol

ok, will do, and if i don't get it done in time, i guess i'll just walk the 30miles to school...up hill...in the snow...in palm springs, lol


How hard of an install is it...Thought it just bolted right up

yea, but you have to jack it up by the axle (or tires) and drain the rear diff. and change the diff oil. and im due for an oil change, so i'm going to change my motor oil to synthetic, put redline in my tranny, put redline in my rear diff. and install the traction bar. i 4got how long URD clames it'll take, but they say a few hours i think.

yea, but you have to jack it up by the axle (or tires) and drain the rear diff. and change the diff oil. and im due for an oil change, so i'm going to change my motor oil to synthetic, put redline in my tranny, put redline in my rear diff. and install the traction bar. i 4got how long URD clames it'll take, but they say a few hours i think.


AWWWW CRAP.....I already changed out my diff to redline and all that...changed my tranny same time also...made it feel smoother. I guess i will be doing another diff fluid change once I get the traction bar

yea, but you have to jack it up by the axle (or tires) and drain the rear diff. and change the diff oil. and im due for an oil change, so i'm going to change my motor oil to synthetic, put redline in my tranny, put redline in my rear diff. and install the traction bar. i 4got how long URD clames it'll take, but they say a few hours i think.


AWWWW CRAP.....I already changed out my diff to redline and all that...changed my tranny same time also...made it feel smoother. I guess i will be doing another diff fluid change once I get the traction bar



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yea, but you have to jack it up by the axle (or tires) and drain the rear diff. and change the diff oil. and im due for an oil change, so i'm going to change my motor oil to synthetic, put redline in my tranny, put redline in my rear diff. and install the traction bar. i 4got how long URD clames it'll take, but they say a few hours i think.


AWWWW CRAP.....I already changed out my diff to redline and all that...changed my tranny same time also...made it feel smoother. I guess i will be doing another diff fluid change once I get the traction bar



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http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif Atleast I have been driving mine around http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif
HAHAHAHA

yea, but you have to jack it up by the axle (or tires) and drain the rear diff. and change the diff oil. and im due for an oil change, so i'm going to change my motor oil to synthetic, put redline in my tranny, put redline in my rear diff. and install the traction bar. i 4got how long URD clames it'll take, but they say a few hours i think.


AWWWW CRAP.....I already changed out my diff to redline and all that...changed my tranny same time also...made it feel smoother. I guess i will be doing another diff fluid change once I get the traction bar



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http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif Atleast I have been driving mine around http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif
HAHAHAHA



HAHA thats to bad for u because mine has less miles http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif and should have all the grills painted along with the engine cover, with HIDS, and shiftlights, new fogs, bed locks, ram air, zaino, custom plates, all new LEDS everwhere, and even that fat auto body man smell http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

HAHA thats to bad for u because mine has less miles http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif and should have all the grills painted along with the engine cover, with HIDS, and shiftlights, new fogs, bed locks, ram air, zaino, custom plates, all new LEDS everwhere, and even that fat auto body man smell http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Thats ok
I dont want my grill same color I like the black, HID are not worth the money to spend on them I got plenty bright bulbs in there...I got LED corners, Super white signals. I have new fog bulbs in there 8500k, got intake thing going, everything else I dont need http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif
wait how many miles you got...I only got 3000

HAHA thats to bad for u because mine has less miles http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif and should have all the grills painted along with the engine cover, with HIDS, and shiftlights, new fogs, bed locks, ram air, zaino, custom plates, all new LEDS everwhere, and even that fat auto body man smell http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Thats ok
I dont want my grill same color I like the black, HID are not worth the money to spend on them I got plenty bright bulbs in there...I got LED corners, Super white signals. I have new fog bulbs in there 8500k, got intake thing going, everything else I dont need http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif
wait how many miles you got...I only got 3000



First off bulbs on a stock harness will not even come close to HIDs, stop being a little girl and get the real deal. Second your intake thing is a joke, please remove all the stock box and add a 21in pipe there then put your little eice cone on it(I would just take that plastic cover off http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif)
Glad to hear that the LEDs went in I can't wait to put mine in. I have 3 pairs of fog light bulbs http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Yellow, purpal, white, Don't hate on the grill because you don't have it. and I think it went into the shop with 1300 on it. Damn what a shame

yea, but you have to jack it up by the axle (or tires) and drain the rear diff. and change the diff oil. and im due for an oil change, so i'm going to change my motor oil to synthetic, put redline in my tranny, put redline in my rear diff. and install the traction bar. i 4got how long URD clames it'll take, but they say a few hours i think.


Bring your [censored] over to my place and lets put it up on my lift and tear it all apart!

i was wanting to do that, but you have to lift it by the axle or wheels, you cannot lift it by the frame, because the rear suspension has to be just like it is on the ground.

but if u can lift it by the wheels, i'm there!

i was wanting to do that, but you have to lift it by the axle or wheels, you cannot lift it by the frame, because the rear suspension has to be just like it is on the ground.

but if u can lift it by the wheels, i'm there!


Damn. Nah, we have a two post lift in our garage, lifts by the frame.

HAHA thats to bad for u because mine has less miles http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif and should have all the grills painted along with the engine cover, with HIDS, and shiftlights, new fogs, bed locks, ram air, zaino, custom plates, all new LEDS everwhere, and even that fat auto body man smell http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Thats ok
I dont want my grill same color I like the black, HID are not worth the money to spend on them I got plenty bright bulbs in there...I got LED corners, Super white signals. I have new fog bulbs in there 8500k, got intake thing going, everything else I dont need http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif
wait how many miles you got...I only got 3000



First off bulbs on a stock harness will not even come close to HIDs, stop being a little girl and get the real deal. Second your intake thing is a joke, please remove all the stock box and add a 21in pipe there then put your little eice cone on it(I would just take that plastic cover off http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif)
Glad to hear that the LEDs went in I can't wait to put mine in. I have 3 pairs of fog light bulbs http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Yellow, purpal, white, Don't hate on the grill because you don't have it. and I think it went into the shop with 1300 on it. Damn what a shame


1 I am not spending 300bucks so my lights can be a little brighter..Waste to me. 2nd My intake works just fine and its sealed properly. GREAT you got 3 sets of fog lights whoop de doo. Go ahead and get your home depot intake. Also atleast I know how to drive and havnt wrecked my car after owning it for what like 3weeks.

Why are you taking this thread off topic anyway to just bitch about something

HAHA thats to bad for u because mine has less miles http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif and should have all the grills painted along with the engine cover, with HIDS, and shiftlights, new fogs, bed locks, ram air, zaino, custom plates, all new LEDS everwhere, and even that fat auto body man smell http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Thats ok
I dont want my grill same color I like the black, HID are not worth the money to spend on them I got plenty bright bulbs in there...I got LED corners, Super white signals. I have new fog bulbs in there 8500k, got intake thing going, everything else I dont need http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif
wait how many miles you got...I only got 3000



First off bulbs on a stock harness will not even come close to HIDs, stop being a little girl and get the real deal. Second your intake thing is a joke, please remove all the stock box and add a 21in pipe there then put your little eice cone on it(I would just take that plastic cover off http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif)
Glad to hear that the LEDs went in I can't wait to put mine in. I have 3 pairs of fog light bulbs http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Yellow, purpal, white, Don't hate on the grill because you don't have it. and I think it went into the shop with 1300 on it. Damn what a shame


1 I am not spending 300bucks so my lights can be a little brighter..Waste to me. 2nd My intake works just fine and its sealed properly. GREAT you got 3 sets of fog lights whoop de doo. Go ahead and get your home depot intake. Also atleast I know how to drive and havnt wrecked my car after owning it for what like 3weeks.



Man that last one really hit the spot man, but what was done is done and my first scracth on the X is out of the way and fixed http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

ok...so in the instructions i was e-mailed they show a picture of the Traction bar and tell me to assemble the bar off the truck, however they don't tell me how to assemble it, they just show me a pic.

so i've done my best to assemble it off the truck the exact same way it looks in the pic however the 2 bolts that go through the holes on the side that connects the diff. one (the lower one) fits perfect, but the top one it looks like the nut is a diffrent thread then the bolt. the nut goes on about 2 turns and won't go any more.

so i went to the other side of the traction bar with the 4 cross bolts, it says on the instructions 1 bolt is longer then the other, however all 4 bolts are the same size, but thats not too big of a problem, sense all 4 seem to be long so i put them in, infact they're almost too long, but URD sent me 2 washers with every bolt, so i put both washers on each bolt and they all seem to be about perfect length then, the biggest problem here is that all 4 nuts he sent with these 4 bolts again seem to be the wrong thread, they go on 2 turns and don't go on any more they are about 10 turns away from being tight, and if i tighten them down any more i know it'll cross thread them, so i guess i'm waiting for ur responce gadget.

on top of that i have a whole bunch of washers that URD has sent, that i don't know where go, because there are no instructions just a picture with words that tell me to assemble the bar.

so gadget, am i doing something wrong or did u send the wrong nuts/bolts?

it would be really nice to get some instructions that tell you to X part into Y hole insted of just a picture too.

i would like to post up the instructions that i've been given, but when mike did that you told him to take it down.

tell me what i'm doing wrong.

LOL more probs man...I hope that gadget can come up with some better direction to make the install a little easyer. Ill be doing a full write up on mine because I like detail and I know other do to. I know that other people have had the bolt probs before. I just hope u find out from him soon because that sucks you drained the diff and now you have to refill it to redain it LOL

So bump for best intrsructions http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Email me your phone number.

Gadget@GadgetOnline.com

Gadget

e-mail sent.

Thanks gadget, glad you could assist a custmer even at 10:30pm you're time. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bow.gif


everything seems to be fine now.

so did u get that [censored] on?

Thanks gadget, glad you could assist a custmer even at 10:30pm you're time. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bow.gif


everything seems to be fine now.


I just wanted to say "WOW!" to Gadget. Making a personal call at around bedtime is truly above and beyond what I would ever expect from a company. I wish more companies would put that much effort into their customer service *cough*CORNFED SUSPENSION*cough*. Seriously, that is exemplary. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

what are the pro's and cons of moving the turn buckle towards the front or towards the rear, i've been playing around with moving it back and foward and don't really feel a diffrence when i change it. i noticed you recomended to put a little torque towards the front, so that's the way i left it.

As you put power to the wheels the axle will twist in the springs and it will twist backward. With the torque bar on, the front of the bar will be pushed upward in the front mount, so my feeling is that if you keep just a hair amount of tension upward it will be preloaded and ready to prevent power on axle twist and more power gets to the tires and road RIGHT NOW.

Anyway, I am sure you all will toy with it and figure out what is best, but in the end the adjustment may not make much difference, but the bar being there sure will.

Gadget

Bed time is easy.

What is tougher is putting down my beer and leaving the camp fire celibration at the Big Dogs Ice Braker 4x4 event in GORE VA and driving into town so I can get a digital signal and check my email.

Yep I got Internet in the 4Runner so I can do tech support on the road and make calls as needed.

OK, to clear up the issues on this install. The front mount uses 4 cross bolts to mount it to the frame cross member. On the XRunner, these bolts use self locking nuts. These nuts have the threads mashed on one end so they can not vibrate loose and once they go on, they stay on for ever. That does make them a little hard to srew on and that is why he thought they were the wrong nuts or they were cross threading. It is supposed to be like that and I will try to make that more clear in the install guide.

One other issue came up with this install that is absolutely our problem. It appears that his torque bar was slightly to long for his truck and he had to shorten it slightly for a perfect fit. Out of the 12 XRunner bars shipped out of the first batch this the first time this came up as a problem.

This is a puzzel to us. His bar is exactly the same as the one on my own XRunner which fits perfectly on mine. We don't know if there is some production varience in the truck its self, different springs, or what ever. We will probably never figure it out. The good news is, that we can shorten all the bars that are in production now and the slightly shorter bar will work fine on all of the trucks, so that is an easy design change.

Thank you all for your continued support!!

Gadget

any updates. I really want this thing but wanna hear some feedback

well, i can feel a little diffrence, but it's kinda hard to feel traction.

i'm waiting till may 14th, i'll take it to the track and i'll post about the diffrence there.

Hey guys, for the first time in 2 weeks of ownership, I did one of those Dr. Jekyl launches from a red light as if I was driving a rental and to my suprise, the truck was much faster than I thought it was. I guess I never pushed it hard enough but I gave it 5500 rpm's all the way to 4th gear from a dead stop. One thing I noticed and have noticed before is the wheel hop on the 1-2 shift. It is wheel hop right? I was wondering if I could just slap on a set of standard Lakewood traction bars to fix this. Has anyone done this and would it help? This is the only gripe I have when driving the truck hard and I wish I could fix that.

i also get a nasty shift to second......but mostly wheelspin.....URD has traction bars tho.

do they have a website?

urdusa.com

also there might be a set of traction bars coming out other then urds that go under the springs

If anyone wants to blaze this trail before me, I'll volunteer the info. These guys make by far the best traction bars on the market!!! Read the information section of this link and decide for yourself. I will be using these on my Fairlane and my X-Runner when money allows me to.
http://www.calvertracing.com/
http://www.calvertracing.com/info/caltracsbar.gif

When shifting to second at redline, are you sure you aren't hitting the rpm limiter and getting a fuel shutoff? I haven't had problems going to second.

BTW, Mr. Hyde is the monster.........

If anyone wants to blaze this trail before me, I'll volunteer the info. These guys make by far the best traction bars on the market!!! Read the information section of this link and decide for yourself. I will be using these on my Fairlane and my X-Runner when money allows me to.
http://www.calvertracing.com/
http://www.calvertracing.com/info/caltracsbar.gif


Are they in the process of making those now or something. I like them
and do you have an idea what they will cost

http://www.calvertracing.com/ord/order.htm

direct from the site


Just $339.00 plus Shipping
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Download a CalTracs Order Form Here.
If you need the Dimension Sheet click Here.

I was asking him as maybe he gets some kida deal if more of us order

Has anyone look at the dimension sheet on the website? I emailed for availability for our trucks. I'll post the response.

Just spoke with Travis from Cal-Vert. No luck with a group buy. Best he can do is if you order two sets he will give you 30.00 off the second set. So maybe some of you can team up and order them. Turn around time is 1-2 weeks to have them to your door.
I haven't measured my truck yet, but he says two things will stop these bars from being produced.
1. Axle tube diameter has to be at least 2 3/4 inches.
2. The "Box"? has to be at least 1/2 inch larger then the spring for the bracketry to wrong.

Other then that it's a go and you call can start the phone calls and orders. I told him I'm sure there will be quite a few people asking about these bars in the not so distant future.

so did you give him your measurments already or does someone still have to do all that still

Yea i got the same response from him, someone needs to get under the truck and fill out the dimension sheet on their website for review... anyone wanna volunteer just to see if we can actually have these made?

I would but I dont have any Verniers(how ever you spell it) to measure the width of alot of the stuff.

Are these better then URD's? Gadget do you have any input on this?

I'll measure tommorrow. I've got nothing to do in the morning anyway.

As far as being better, I'm gonna say it's brand preference. I know these guys reputation. I've seen many a car equipped with these bars at the drag stip dead hook off the line, pull the wheels and get gone!!! Cars notorious for having no traction miracously hook with these things installed. I'll try to find this video of a Maverick with a 347 that originally sold me on them.

I'm sure i'm beating a dead horse..but cant find it on this forum. Need traction bars for my xrunner and heard they sell em..thanks,
eb in da xr

http://www.sosperf.com/

they don't sell them, well there not listed.

http://www.urdusa.com has them

thanks! Anyone have input on the URD trac. bars? I was considering playing with calvert racing and seeing if they want to make a set.

OK- just spoke to Matthew at calvert racing and he said monday they will be going to a local dealer to see a xrunner and get measurements to possibly fabricate a set of trac bars for the "X". I volunteered to be the guinea pig. Seems like some nice folks..i'll keep posting on their progress. If youre reading, thanks again Matthew.
EB in da xr

I'd go with the URD Traction Bar. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

thanks! Anyone have input on the URD trac. bars? I was considering playing with calvert racing and seeing if they want to make a set.



I would talk to KRGUNMAN (Kadon) because he has the traction bar on his X. His 60 fts were better then mine at a 2.2 and mine at a 2.3 and me beating his best time for that day. I would like to see what other companys put out. I am not the biggest fan of having anymore weight shoved on my diff...

yeah- i'm thinking the same thing. The "slapper" style that calvert builds is more like a 4 link set up...I see it being a better option as far as consistent/straight launches. Hopefully they call back on monday.

Hi- i'm trying to get Calvert racing to make a set of traction bars for the xrunner but they are having a hard time finding one to measure the dimensions. I need a volunteer to go get measured for 5 minutes in the antelope valley area of California. They are in lancaster, CA and their number is 661-948-1490. Talk to Matt.
I'm ready to be the guinee pig to install and test them but i need someone to help out with measurements for fabrication. thanks in advance,
eb (in illinois) any q's- 847-372-3529

urd already has one that is proven, http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif

Trying to get more then 1 option though..someone else might like a different type of setup.
Better to have more of something out there

Havent heard much about the urd set up. I like the calvert setup because it mounts by the leafs..not the diffy bolts. I'm sure the urd is fine but i lean towards the old muscle car style trac. bars. Plus the calverts will be about $90 less. I'll post my results when theyre on..
EB

urd already has one that is proven, http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif



diff bolts = scary

what part of il u live in?

nw burbs of chicago...algonquin

o live in mattoon

Along this line of thought, I thought there were problems with braking when you have traction bars that are less than 42 inches due to something called, er, I think brake hop. This is for front attached types.
To get traction on lauches, I believe shorter bars were better but many chose unattached fronts to ease the brake hop. Hence the bars evolved into short bars that had high rotation to push the rear down faster but unattached in front so that you wouldn't raise the axle up when braking. I saw both spring mount attached and differential attached types. The diff attached types had a bumper in front that hit a chassis mounted plate. This idea was promoted because the spring mount style used the leaf spring and was prone to exert pressure against the spring, slightly changing the shape. Didn't seem to matter much when those Camaros took off tho.

There are some chassis books out there that you should read that would probably help in your decision/design. They are easy reading and you could probably browse throught the whole thing at the book stores.

Definitely study your truck to look for possible mounting areas and clearances too. Adding to the bottom lessens ground clearance near the tire and many friends ended up scraping things on the road when they avoided hitting the tires but not the traction bars. Loud clang when they hit too.

thank u for the insight...

urd already has one that is proven, http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif



diff bolts = scary



Why?

This method has been used for years on heavily abused off road truck driving over bolders. Never been an issue and there is nother out there that will lock the axle and prevent it from twisting in the springs as well as this method.

Gadget

urd already has one that is proven, http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif



diff bolts = scary



Why?

This method has been used for years on heavily abused off road truck driving over bolders. Never been an issue and there is nother out there that will lock the axle and prevent it from twisting in the springs as well as this method.

Gadget



Gadget,

I am not saying your bar isn't great, I have seen it on a X and the bar looks tits and it looks like a bit of R&D has gone into it. But at the track only improvement would be .1 in the 60 foot. My best is a 2.3 and an X with a traction bar is 2.2. To me thats not worth the cash. The X runner springs are already stiffer and there isn't to much axle wrap. I think if the truck was full blown F/I I would see a diffrence but until then I see no need for it on my truck. Gadget I have a few URD parts on my truck and I am greatful of everyone one of them so don't get me wrong. I am just saying that a traction setup that sits on the srpings might show better results. Until there made and proven you have the best setup for the X.

Now I just don't trust using my non trust diff to handle the pressure of the trucks tourqe.

first, the diff takes the tq anyways, what do you think the drive shaft connects too? second, about the times, its not meant to make it launch faster, but to eliminate wheel hop. it doesnt do it much on nice even pavement, but once the road it all tore up, i do get it, and im sure i wouldnt with the traction bar. also, once i lower my truck with blocks (eww, but free, and no other options) the bar will help retain my truck ability to launch.

and I don't disagree, when the X gets droped its really gonna need a traction set up.

well, like them or not? im realy thinking about getting one. i get sooooo much wheel hop when i launch hard. i called caltracs and asked them about theres. they said they have 2 options. the regular and low profile. im taking mesurements tonight for them and ill know if they can make it for us hopefully by tomarrow. id also like to know how you guys feel about the urd kit. pros/cons?

Kadon (KGRGunman) is the only one with the URD trac bar that I know of. Hopefully he will chime in.

i don't notice the URD traction bar at all excpt when i go over big bumps (pot holes mostly) or if i go over bumps while accelerating (mostly happens over pot holes in intersections) but i don't notice it at all in day to day driving. i do have to say i drove once in the rain when it was stock and i had fun lighting up the wheels in the rain, stock almost every time i launched at all i would get insane wheel hop, with the traction bar i get not even a hint of wheel hop in the rain, as for dry; i'd say only about 25% of the time my rear wheels lost traction i'd get wheel hop, but 75% of the time in the dry, i'd never notice it.

another thing is the track, the track is a little slicker then the street dry, but grips better then the rain, there i did not feel it at all, but i did notice an avg. of 0.2 sec.faster in the 1/4 so i guess it works.

however i feel that the traction bars your getting made will probaly do the job just as well, so if the price is better, go for it. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

Please keep us posted. I'm very much interested in a t bar. Thanks!

i don't notice the URD traction bar at all excpt when i go over big bumps (pot holes mostly) or if i go over bumps while accelerating (mostly happens over pot holes in intersections) but i don't notice it at all in day to day driving. i do have to say i drove once in the rain when it was stock and i had fun lighting up the wheels in the rain, stock almost every time i launched at all i would get insane wheel hop, with the traction bar i get not even a hint of wheel hop in the rain, as for dry; i'd say only about 25% of the time my rear wheels lost traction i'd get wheel hop, but 75% of the time in the dry, i'd never notice it.

another thing is the track, the track is a little slicker then the street dry, but grips better then the rain, there i did not feel it at all, but i did notice an avg. of 0.2 sec.faster in the 1/4 so i guess it works.

however i feel that the traction bars your getting made will probaly do the job just as well, so if the price is better, go for it. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif




thanks for the feedback!! quick qustion, when you do notice it (potholes/bumps) what happens?

all that happens is a sound (it's not a bad sound, it's just a sound) it sounds like the spring is trying to warp into an S, like it's trying to wheel hop but it does not sound like wheel hop sounds, it sounds like it's stoped in the middle. basicly the sound is just the wheel trying to hop and the traction bar stoping it.

My wheel hop is very bad too. On a stock XR, how much clearance is there from the bar to the ground? If I get one, the red would look good, but I don't want it scratching the road.

Plus, does anyone know if the traction bar will conflict with the SOS (or other) 1.5" lowering kit.

well, like them or not? im realy thinking about getting one. i get sooooo much wheel hop when i launch hard. i called caltracs and asked them about theres. they said they have 2 options. the regular and low profile. im taking mesurements tonight for them and ill know if they can make it for us hopefully by tomarrow. id also like to know how you guys feel about the urd kit. pros/cons?
Someone on here already got a set of Caltracs on his XR..they where like the first set. I forget who it was.

Someone on here already got a set of Caltracs on his XR..they where like the first set. I forget who it was.

LOL it was me!!! i bought it a couple of weeks after i started this tread!! :nana:

guess a quick view of the date would have helped. :funnyup:

LOL it was me!!! i bought it a couple of weeks after i started this tread!! :nana:
Ok so any updates on the Caltracs. Do they work well take away wheel hop do they help you launch better. I really liked the way they looked and seem to be pretty effective. That was going to be my next mod

I'm just going by what I have been told, but I heard that coilovers are the best way to go. I know they are not cheap, I am not sure of anyone who makes them for the X-Runner, but you guys seem to spend a lot of money on your trucks and it sounds like your into doing things right. Not to say that traction bars are wrong, just saying coilovers would make for a better setup. Maybe I'm wrong.

no one makes anything like that. I dont forsee it happening either

I'm sure you can get anything custom fab for a certain price.

I know why they did what they did(cost). But I wish they would have put an independent rear suspension on the X-Runner. Then a coilover system would be a lot easier.

that would end up costing way to much to make it actually outway the traction bars instead

Ok so any updates on the Caltracs. Do they work well take away wheel hop do they help you launch better. I really liked the way they looked and seem to be pretty effective. That was going to be my next mod

ya there great so far bro!!!:waytogo: ZERO wheel hop! i spoke to caltracs the other day and they said im still the only one with them. i wonder why, its a bada$s product. btw whats holding you back from picking them up? if your ever im my area let me know, ill let ya test them out yourself, IF ya can fit in my seat and get the harnest around ya. if your over 220lbs then ya might have a hard time. not sayin that you are though lol!:D

ya there great so far bro!!!:waytogo: ZERO wheel hop! i spoke to caltracs the other day and they said im still the only one with them. i wonder why, its a bada$s product. btw whats holding you back from picking them up? if your ever im my area let me know, ill let ya test them out yourself, IF ya can fit in my seat and get the harnest around ya. if your over 220lbs then ya might have a hard time. not sayin that you are though lol!:D
I dont think i am gonna be in your area anytime soon...LOL
Only thing holding me up right now is some cash...I will probably be oridering a set within the next 2months

I dont think i am gonna be in your area anytime soon...LOL
Only thing holding me up right now is some cash...I will probably be oridering a set within the next 2months

LOL oops!!! i just noticed were ya live :brickknoc .

I know this may sound silly as well, but I was thinking of something on my hour commute home. Is the rear suspension on a 4 Runner an independent suspension? And if so do you think it would work on a X-Runner? That would be sweet.

Sorry, but I am all about road racing and I would love to see an independent rear end on a X-Runner! That is the reason I am into Imports as appose to muscle cars. THEY CAN HANDLE CURVES!
WOO HOO!:headbang:

Anyone have them in Red and a picture of them installed?
I am curious how much is visible/not visible, and whether or not I am going to get them in Red or not...
TIA

You bring up an interesting point.

We have asked this very question at our weekly staff meetings and we think we know the answer, but would like to ask you the question.

What is more important to you with a traction bar, pure function with the best possible design to arrest the axle twisting in the springs, or something that does not work nearly as well, but has a high bling factor where it can been seen by others?

Gadget

Oh... Definately the functionality... BUT..
Since I have REd Calipers..
I would pay extra for the Red bar IF it is noticeable. If it is not, I would get the black at no additional cost..
If the Red bar doesnt show up much while on the road, whats the point?

What you say makes sense.

I reallity you can't see the thing when the truck is on the tires. There is on small part of the diff bracket that can be seen from the rear of the truck if you are following it, but it is a small piece and the rest is not going to be seen.

We feel that these should be selling better then they are and are trying to figure out why. We think it is the fact that once it is installed there is nothing to look at so there is a very low bling factor and lets face it, folks like a little bling and a lot of folks will choose bling over function.

There are other designs on the market that do not work nearly as well. To arrest the axle from twisting in the springs it takes leverage. Our design uses a torque arm that is several feet long where other design have a torque arm of just a few inches from the center of rotation of the axle.

If you install our bar without the front mount you can grab the front and move the front of the bar up and down and make the axle twist in the spring and it will amaze you how little effort it takes and how much you can twist the axle in the springs. It will blow you mind. Leverage works and the more you have the better the end result.

Thanks for answering my questions.

Gadget

And Gadget, thank you for answering mine.
I am definately interested in the bar for the functionality. I must make nice with the wifey this week.....
Ugh
Unless of course Gadget, you need a black XR to design a new bar that will bring "Bling" aloong with the bar....
You could have my truck :)
LOL

We were thinking of putting a neon light along the torque bar...

Gadget

HAHAHAHAHAHA i hope your kidding....functionality is awesome....sleepers are the best, but i guess with the X-Runner you already wrote off being a sleeper as soon as you bought it

We feel that these should be selling better then they are and are trying to figure out why. We think it is the fact that once it is installed there is nothing to look at so there is a very low bling factor and lets face it, folks like a little bling and a lot of folks will choose bling over function.
no, IMO i think its from cost. the wheel hop isnt a huge problem, so the desire to fix an occational problem isnt too high. (although im sure there are benifits outside of getting rid of wheel hop). the solution? give us some damn power mods for the truck, so we can overpower the springs, THEN they will sell like hotcakes.

no, IMO i think its from cost. the wheel hop isnt a huge problem, so the desire to fix an occational problem isnt too high. (although im sure there are benifits outside of getting rid of wheel hp). the solution? give us some damn power mods for the truck, so we can overpower the springs, THEN they will sell like hotcakes.

agreed!

We were thinking of putting a neon light along the torque bar...

Gadget
Hrmmm...
I have white neon under my truck now...
Just for the glow at night.
I got kinda tired of seeing blue and red and purple everywhere, so I went with white.. Looks good on a black truck too.
I will probably just order the black bars and not worry about the red. Gadget, Thank you for all your responses.

no, IMO i think its from cost. the wheel hop isnt a huge problem, so the desire to fix an occational problem isnt too high. (although im sure there are benifits outside of getting rid of wheel hop). the solution? give us some damn power mods for the truck, so we can overpower the springs, THEN they will sell like hotcakes.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

How about a URD traction bar "Group Buy"? I'd be interested if the price is right!

I need one and I want one. The price is what is keeping me from buying one this instant. I keep looking at the cheaper alternatives and come back to the good design but can't pull the trigger cause I think it is overpriced. It is avail. from another source but still overpriced. I may end up with one like we used to make in HS shop! A 2" pipe welded to the axle, worked great on a '69 Nova big block.

I just got my Caltracs traction bars installed today, and man what a difference, its definitely worth the money. Zero wheel hop!! Thanks for letting us know about these Gerk!!

how much did these cost cause i cant find them on calverts racing site

05x-runner, they are about $339, just ask for Travis when you call

thanks man does any one have any pictures of them

Yeah, there is a couple of pictures in this thread: http://www.customtacos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50995&highlight=caltracs

If you order them make sure you ask for the low profile.

man those are nice will be ordering some on tuesday. thanks for the info

any pics of the urd tracion bars and if any please post thanks

http://gadgetonline.com/Tractionbar.pdf

Gadget

thinking in getting a set but wanted to see some pics uf the URD bars and the CALTRACS mounted on the truck and some reviews on what u think thanks

keeper92 has the cal tracs mounted on his x just ask him he has pics.

Not my XR but here is a set of Caltracs on a XR
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/05Xrunner/617297-caltracs.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/05Xrunner/617293-DSC02456.jpg

I have the CalTracs tractions bars, and the work Great!!! Definitely worth the money, no wheel hop at all

What where they like to install..Did you do it

I couldn't install them myself since I did not have a press machine to get rid of the bushing, so I had them install them, took them an hour for the complete install and adjustment.

i wonder what kinda shocks that X has

i wonder what kinda shocks that X has
he has Rancho 9000

much thanks for the cal track pics
any member out there with urd ones i read that there bult ons but the pic isn't that good because they only show one end thanks

The traction bar sales at URD should go up when everyone gets a s/c. I know I'm gonna buy one.

Lets hope they release it soon

I Found A Some Pics Uf The Urd Tracion Bar It Mounts To The Diffy15799

Lets hope they release it soon

amen

Is URD doing an S/C? I thought they were doing dual T/Cs...... hmmmmm....

End result is no wheel hop. But does anyone know which application is better: Differential -OR- Side Mounted?

Are there pros / cons for each?

Or, does either affect Toyota warranty?

I've been dealing with traction bars for quite some time on muscle cars, so heres my opinion. When you have traction bars you want to be able to adjust each side individually, this will help with getting the straightest, best possible launch. Where as the torque arm style of URD's allows the rearend to move in a larger radius, making it better for daily driving, while also not affecting cornering as much. So the decision is left to you. my .02

Does anyone knows if Caltracs produces those traction bar for the "01-"04 Tacoma ? As I checked their webisite, but nothing is mentioned about ANY Toyota Tacoma (of any year).
I noticed URD has a model, but I'd like to compare the two units before go ahead an purchase....anyone ?
Alex

Does anyone knows if Caltracs produces those traction bar for the "01-"04 Tacoma ? As I checked their webisite, but nothing is mentioned about ANY Toyota Tacoma (of any year).
I noticed URD has a model, but I'd like to compare the two units before go ahead an purchase....anyone ?
Alex

its like in and outs secret menu. you just have to ask them and they will make it. if they dont have it for your truck, then you would have to get under your truck and do some measuring OR take a drive out to the desert. do you have acess to a press? you will need one if you cant drive to them. reach out and call them, they are very willing to help! oh and i dont think you need a press for the URD trac bars.:thinking:

I should have bought an XR, but instead I got a Pre-runner. I assume that these trac bars will fit the 05 prerunner.:shrug:

I should have bought an XR, but instead I got a Pre-runner. I assume that these trac bars will fit the 05 prerunner.:shrug:
I wouldnt see why not..should all be the same except i think the prerunner will have spring over and the XR is spring under

can the average shade -tree mechanic install the traction bars themselves?:thinking:

can the average shade -tree mechanic install the traction bars themselves?:thinking:

yea

any special tools needed to install the trac bar that mounts to the dirr.? does it bolt or weld in place?

Read the install instruction post, look pretty simple to me. After looking over many different designs for traction bars, I chose the URD even though I could get something workable for less money. I even found a very similar bar at another supplier but I think we should support URD for their help. It just makes sense that the longer the lever the better the leverage. Also with it being located in the center it should have less of an effect on handling. Other traction bars I have had stiffened up the rear and hurt the handling. I even had some of the old "slapper" bars on my Mach1but they scraped the ground on hard braking!

Well thanks for your confidence in our design.

You will find that our works as well during hard braking as it does under hard acceleration.

Gadget

Well thanks for your confidence in our design.

You will find that our works as well during hard braking as it does under hard acceleration.

Gadget

Do you have a shop in MD that I could possibly get the URD traction bar installed on my way up to Rhode Island in March? If not, can you recommend someone in the Norfolk, VA area? Thanks.

Do you have a shop in MD that I could possibly get the URD traction bar installed on my way up to Rhode Island in March? If not, can you recommend someone in the Norfolk, VA area? Thanks.

thats a good question ide be willing to drive down for a few prof. installs

No, there is no URD install shop in MD, sorry.

There is a dyno shop in the Norfolk area that I have been to and I am sure they can handle the install for you if you don't want to do it yourself. I have checked out the shop and spent a lot of time talking to the owners and I am sure they will do a good job for you.

I can not think of the name right now, but Xtra-PSI and Sam have been there as customers and I am sure they can remember the name of it.

Gadget

No, there is no URD install shop in MD, sorry.

There is a dyno shop in the Norfolk area that I have been to and I am sure they can handle the install for you if you don't want to do it yourself. I have checked out the shop and spent a lot of time talking to the owners and I am sure they will do a good job for you.

I can not think of the name right now, but Xtra-PSI and Sam have been there as customers and I am sure they can remember the name of it.

Gadget

Is it "DYNOTUNED" in Chesapeake,VA off of Greenbrier?

Yea, that sounds like it. They have a DynoDynamics dyno and have that plastic lay over floor tile.

Gadget

By the way, can I get linked to the urd tb install manual? stupid me cant find it. Thanks.

any word on the calvert (caltrac) type bars? how much of the handling is affected? does it make the suspension alot stiffer? becuz i live in louisiana and the roads are not exactly the smoothest, and sometimes going around a curve the rear wants to come around or will start to hop.

ever since i got my new XR i have felt some "minor" wheel hop when i launch a little harder than usual. but today i launched it even harder and got some "horrible" wheel hop!! the whole cabin shook a good three times, like 3 inches up and down(!), until i let off the gas.

my question is, how bad is wheel hop to the drivetrain and other parts? does it put a lot of stress on the parts?

thanks

I have yet to have any wheel hop.. and ive tried lanching it at 3500 rpm and it just smokes them and when it grabs it just goes.

very, very bad on your truck. you can snap axles and rear ends, and people do..........

The worst thing you could do is lose control of your truck and fly off the road and total your junk.

Mechanicly, you could bend your leaf springs or snap your driveshaft.

Wheel hop from the axle wrapping up in the leaf springs reallly sucks.

Within a month or so of getting my X I developed this for it to stop that problem:

http://www.urdusa.com/product_info.php?cPath=9_16&products_id=130000087&osCsid=d71957cad820e143f749c68c7b221b99

Gadget

any word on the calvert (caltrac) type bars? how much of the handling is affected? does it make the suspension alot stiffer? becuz i live in louisiana and the roads are not exactly the smoothest, and sometimes going around a curve the rear wants to come around or will start to hop. it depends on how much preload you use. the more you dial in the stiffer it gets. ive done a rallycross with it and it was fine with all the huge bumps.:shrug: i dont think that it will solve you rear end coming out though, you might wana look into some shocks or just slide it out and counter steer!!:evil: sorry i cant really tell you to much, i did several mods at the same time so im not sure what did what.. sorry:confused:

Already saving my pennies, Gadget..

Trac bar 1st
Brakes 2nd
Wait for FI solution 3rd...

I have the Caltracs installed, and it did not make it any stiffer, and if it does just adjust the pre-load like gerk said. Works Great!!

does anyone have or can anyone point me in the right direction to some instructions for the urd bars. i have enough money for the bars but not enough to pay some one for the install. kinda hoping i can do it my self. thanks!

Talk to Gadget..... He know's all about them :headbang:

http://gadgetonline.com/Tractionbar.pdf

Gadget

Hey gadget is that made by budbuilt? Loooks very similar.

the urd bar has been a major discussion all evening. it looks as though the urd bar does not affect the radius movement of the axel like the calvert bars. so it would not affect the cornering capabilities which is one of the strong points of the xrunner. the calvert bars look rather low and would probably give trouble in louisiana, becuz the roads are so bumpy. has anyone actually done an install there self?:thinking: any problems not covered in the instructions.

It was in fact jointly developed with Bud specifically for 2 wheel drive street truck applications. I have known Bud for years.

Gadget

jonathan, do you know of instances where people snap axles and rear ends? if so how many times did they wheel hop? once, twice...? any transmission damage?

if anybody else knows of people damaging their XR's or other vehicles directly from wheel hop, please let me know!

thanks guys!

the urd bar has been a major discussion all evening. it looks as though the urd bar does not affect the radius movement of the axel like the calvert bars. so it would not affect the cornering capabilities which is one of the strong points of the xrunner. the calvert bars look rather low and would probably give trouble in louisiana, becuz the roads are so bumpy. has anyone actually done an install there self?:thinking: any problems not covered in the instructions.

You should call Calvert and talk to Travis, 661-948-1490. I haven't had any problems with my traction bars, or my cornering capabilities. Give them a call, they should have all the answers for you.

Hey Gadget. I am not to keen on buying after market parts that doesnt improve my horsepower, however, I am also concerned about the wheel hopping. I didn't even know what my truck was doing until I read the thread. I have twenties with a bigger plant and stickier tires, so it has gotten worse. In your opinion, how well does the traction bar fix the wheel hopping.

Thanks:bow:

I eliminates the axle wrapping up in the springs and the wheel hopping caused by that. It is just that simple.

Gadget

I am not a mechanicle genius as you might be. But would anything else cause the wheel hopping besides the axle wrapping up in the springs. I am not meaning to sound condescending just wondering.
Thanks:bow:

does anybody know of actual damage done to XR's because of Wheel Hop????!!!!!! If so, who, what happened, and what parts were affected. Thanks.

so since no one knows of any damage happening to our XR's b/c of wheel hop, and many of us have wheel hopped this thing some worse than others, then is it safe to say that wheel hop DOESN'T do any damage to them??

Have you seen the latest Mustang commercial? They show one doing donuts on wet pavement. Notice the wheel hop? Not as bad as you get on trucks, but it is a common problem.

I'm surprised they released that commercial, since it just makes me think about how LAME the Mustang rear suspension must be!

so since no one knows of any damage happening to our XR's b/c of wheel hop, and many of us have wheel hopped this thing some worse than others, then is it safe to say that wheel hop DOESN'T do any damage to them??

Yes, wheel hop can absolutely damage your vehicle. Some of the people said in the begining of this topic that it can break axles or driveshafts or even rear ends. It is deffinitely worth the money to buy traction bars rather than any of those parts multiple times. Especially if you're buying them from toyota. My dad has broken many parts in his years due to wheel hop.

Hey guys, I do not have an X but I have actually bent a rear axle due to to much wheel hop/axle wrap. Not a common brake on a truck but the bigger the tire the worse it is. I was hitch to hitch with a Dakota 4x4 with a V8 and to say Toyotas are tough is an understatement considering he tore out both front cv shafts and snapped a u-joint. I at least drove my Taco home even though it had a very nasty vibration. My truck still has the original axle shafts, u-joints and drivesahfts. No other problems except the housing.