confused - 2.4l Supercharger

I went to the Tacoma Territory 4x4 site and I searched all over their message board and couldnt find out any info on the 2.4 / 2.7 supercharger. Can someone hook me up with a link or any information .. thanks!!
Justin

I think the company is Alpine if I remember correctly. That's what I read on TTORA.

justin

jason is right, do a aol search for alpine superchargers...and ull see tacoma hiulux or something thats what u want , they make superchargers for both the 2.4 and 2.7l

huraaaahhhh

I found the website for the 2.4L supercharger from TRD

http://www.partznet.com/toyota/tacoma/supercharger.html

I prob won't have funds to do major mods for a couple of years but....What's better? Turbo kit or Supercharger? They cost just about the same so what's the advantages/disadvantages of either? Whith a super you get more power right off the line right?

Well there both are good.. and both have it's positive and negatives.... Turbo... I personally would get.. the Supercharger is more torque not really for top end power.. Turbo is.. but turbo is only efficent when it is spooled up and an nice intercooler would help... Supercharger beats on your engine when on idol.. plus you are stuck with power it gives you.. turbo you can change and increase your PSI to give you more power..but fine tuning is needed.. supercharger just bolt on... if so.. I would get the Turbo for the High end power and NOS for the low end.. best of both.. you may know I am a NOS man.. reason being cause back in 1996.. that's was the only thing available.. it's really up to you... NOS is good cause it is on demand power for both top and low end.. but the major draw back is refilling the bottle and keeping it warm.. plus it sucks when your bottle is almost empty... if you really concerned about price.. then go with the supercharger.. cause the turbo will cost more in the long run cause you need to pay more to make it more efficent cause a good Intercooler for the turbo is around $2,000 with custom piping... oh one more thing.. the supercharger has a less likely chance to ruin your motor.. any power adder will harm the engine.. if not properly tuned.. especially with Turbo & NOS..

well i would expect TRD to make this supercharger street legal. Some pros about the supercharger is that there is no lag unlike the turbo,and the PSI can be changed by simply changing the pulley of the supercharger.

i want that 2.4 TRD supercharger

Wow that sounds great, 35% increase should bring the 2.4 up to around 190 hp? anyone who gets this please let us know. Now how much would that cost in Canadian dollars, the exchange really sucks right now.

Yeah, that's a nice supercharger, street legal and fully backed by Toyota...brings a stock 2.4L up to 191HP, that's pretty dramatic...I personally would prefer the super over the turbo, simple design, solid power from the time you hit go to the time you redline, and you generally get much better wear out of a super than a turbo, on the charger itself and the engine as a whole. I read that it takes approx 11HP to run a super since it's belt driven off the crank, but considering the fact that it will generate about 60HP extra boost at 5000RPM (60-11 =49, bringing 142 to 191) that's a fair trade of power I'd say!

Wish I didn't have to buy myself back out of debt before I can get one!

Word, I'm in the hole with ya man!

yeah i've been in the whole for about 2 months now it sux...

Why is it that most people are modifying their 4cyl?? It's all about the 6cyl man!! come on!

The supercharged 6cyl puts you up around 250 hp!! Thats what you're looking for, it's fast, furious, and it'll take you somewhere... not to mention it's beefier looking...

Cuz when that's what you got, that's what you got! Should we NOT try to get more power out of the engine's we have simply because there is a larger stock system available? Of course not! We take what we've got and pull the best we can from it, and with the Taco's 24.L 4 cyl, there's quite a lot that can be gotten out of it.

EXACTLY!

Cool, jsut curious.. ehhehe.. theres a lot of 2.4l talk on this board... i just miss the 6cyl talk! hehehe... But it's all good, becuse we're tacoma's! Dude... we gotta get together and roll around so we can squish those ricers...

Is your truck stick or auto? The s/c 4x4 and prerunner autos only seem to run low 15s from what I've seen. There are several of us on here with the V6, but mostly 4 cyl.

Indeed, unfortunatlyi have the prerunner V6... and i do believe your estimation is prob most accurate. Doing lots of research on attempting to incease boost for the supercharger i found that the newer TRD Superchargers are outputting an average of 4.5 psi, where as the old ones averge from 5-7 and even as high as 8psi.

Gadgets says theres a backflow of airpressure taking away from the boost.. something like that. I still haven't gotten that fixed.

4cyl may not put out as much power as the V6... but it's about power to wieght ratio... from personal experience... V6 supercharger runs 15's down a track fully interior... a 4 cyl with only a 50 shot of NOS run's 15's down the track fully interior so that is like 142hp+50hp=192hp(automatic) when the V6 is like 190hp+ I dunno what the SC makes.. but if you say total 250hp. If I were to get the V6... with SC.. it would definatelly be 4x4 off-roader.. but the 4cyl... they are STREET FIGHTERS.. hahahahha...

if the V4's are the streetfighters... then what does that make hte V6's?

doesn't make either anything, it's not most definite that a V6 will be "FASTER", maybe more POWER... but then again POWER and SPEED are two different items... you can crank out 600 horses, unless with the right items.. don't expect to go very fast.

haha, dude, i know V6's don't mean they go faster... we just gotta stick together on the tracks ya know?

yeah thats true man we gotta stick togther as "Tacoma owners"

Shoot.. in the other post we're talking about rendevoux with everyone... You'r ein aren'tcha?? We gotta get something going so we can represent when it comes showtime... lets battle the integras.. they're gross..

hehe well im down for whatever as long as there are tacos that are willing to come and represent ita all good =)

hey 4bang...jeff has an integ...so does louis...haha

yeah man but we got tacos =) we are better

i dunno if tacos could really hang with integra's (the mod'd GSR's ) ......they're pretty quick cars,now i know civics are little ricers but my buddy has a civic with a 1.8 liter GSR conversoin done on it and that car is fast > i know i couldnt even think of hangin w'em unless i had a turbo.

conversion...i can't spell

I know one thing about the civic si. It can't keep up with the 6. I raced a supd up si and beat it by 2 car lengths. By the way, mine was stock at the time.

...yeah i only have a 4cyl....+ its an extended cab ..

All I can say is HELL MF'n YEAH BABY!!!! I am DEFINTELY getting one of those ... hopefully by midsummer it will be possible!! Man .. i would have skipped gettin a bodydrop to get a supercharger .. oh well .. the tiem will come shortly!!!

i cant wait to see a tacoma with a 2.4 L.C turbo, a tacoma with an E.L turbo ,and a tacoma with a TRD supercharger race it up...???!!! i'd put my $$$ on the L.C turbo

Oh freak no way!! the Supercharged TRD would win...

But i agree, lets line it up! It would be a nice battle.

Can you pop nos with the superchargers, or would that cause a meltdown? It would go like stink if everything held together!

i could see how the sup would be pretty fast off the line ...but hey untill we see it we may never know???. Beezer has the E.L kit ..an ummm im broke for at least the next to months (already wrecked my 02)..anyone out there with the L.C kit ..i also think beexer is in the SD area so they could match it up out there..i'm from AZ and wont be in SD till the summer

whoa do i smell a taco battle?? i wanna see that. hell ill pay money to see that.

I wouldn't mind runnning against one of them turbo'd 4 cyl's!! Although my truck isn't at all most equipt.. i only have the s/c, not headers nor exhaust nor modified FMU... http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif Woe is me... i'm pinging!

Now I know the saying is no replacement for displacement but.... the 2.4 and the 3.4 are completely different...I actually have both a 96 2.4 and a 2001 s-runner...Did you know the 2.4 has a very short stroke-lots of rpm potential...With cams and springs mine turns 7500 RPM! Once you hit 4000 rpm look out....I love screaming past those hondas! The 3.4 can't handle high rpms...not much fun after driving the 2.4 - it basically pulls from idle and dies after about 4800...I can't wait to try the 2.4 supercharger but I'll probably have to lower the redline to about 6500 to keep from overspeeding the supercharger...Toyota dosen't sell V6 2WD regular cab tacomas so if you don't a 2WD extra cab, you can't get a V6.....

Realy? Wow! I figured my 2.4 couldn't handle higher RPM's very well because the redline on the tach starts at about 54K. I've been timid to push it too far. I usually don't keep it over 3k for any extended period lengh of time.

Have you been to a dyno to check your power outout?? And how the heck did you get a 2.4 into a Toyota van? All before the Siennas had the motor underneath. I'm not doubting you, just surprised.

Can you pop nos with the superchargers, or would that cause a meltdown?

Hell yes. Here is a prime example: http://www.divisionone.org/inside/tacoma/tacoma.html
Also, in Sport Truck mag., there is a project S-Runner that they are hooking up a Nitrous Express system 35-75hp depending upon the jets they install. A guy buy the name of Jim Sleeper setup the NOS. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif What a name for a NOS expert! If you can get a back order of the Feb. 2002 edition, you can read the article as the April issue is already on the racks.

I'm confused, who said anything about a 2.4 in a van? Also on my last post I meant 5.4k not 54k.

http://www.customtacos.com/gallery/albums/zTSD/supercharger.sized.jpg
that's how the super looks like.. go to the gallery under zTSD...

The new TRD 2.7L supercharger is made by Alpine of South Africa.

http://www.topgear.co.za/alpine-developments/toyota_hilux_2700i.htm

I am the first Tacoma owner to get the Alpine Supercharger for the 2.7L. There are 3 types of kits. Alpine Decompressed Kit (8psi boost), Alpine Non-decompressed Kit (6psi boost) and the TRD version. The Alpine kits come with a larger blower (M-90) and a fuel enhancement package (UniChip Piggyback Computer & Auxiliary fuel injector) to handle the boost, the TRD version uses the smaller blower that the V6 S/C uses, has lower boost and no fuel enhancement.

I imported and installed the Alpine Supercharger January, 2001 and have put over 20K miles on it. The kit I got was for the Toyota Hi-Lux i2700 engine, requires decompressing the engine, runs 11.5 psi boost. I had to fabricate the EGR connections. The new kits now come ready to install on the Tacoma.

The Alpine Supercharger running 8 psi boost will produce almost the same hp as a V6 with a TRD S/C. The supercharger makes the 2.7L Taco a ball to drive. Smooth as silk but watch out for speeding tickets! Got 2 this past year. I highly recommend the Alpine 2.7L decompressed version for maximum fun.

The Alpine Superchargers are only available to TTORA members in this country and cost around $1,900 + import and shipping ($2,400 total aprox.). For more information: www.TacomaTerritory.com. (http://www.TacomaTerritory.com.)

ok plain and simple which 2.7 litter supercharger is the best,??

Well, it sounds like the Alpine may be a little better, but not as easy to install. It't looking like the TRD will be a more direct bolt-on, but possibly not as much boost. At least, that's what I'm getting from what everyone says.

actually.. .do you have a pic of the TRD one.. cause how the apline one is set up... it looks like that how the TRD on will look like as well...cause all S/C have to put after the throttle body and go directly to the intake.. and the way apline has there set up.. that is seems like the only way the 4 cyl will be... that doesn't look too bad to install.. besides that is is bolt on as well... but the price is cheaper..

if alpine makes the ones for trd then wouldnt they be extremely similar if they in fact both fit on the same moter and are made by the same co.

i want the 1 with the most power im not to worried about the install part, if i chaged my throttle body to 3mm overbore, would it hurt me in the long run when i goto install the s/c

Hmmm... Don't you know that NOTHING is plain and simple! 8)

The TRD is available at your local Toyota Dealership and they can install it for you and will warrantee it. The install is slightly easier because they don't give you the UniChip piggyback computer.

The Alpine must be imported, cost less, self-install, more power, included the UniChip and an Auxiliary Fuel Injector. The decompressed version has even more power but requires removing the head and installing a spacer and two head gaskets which is no simple task due to the dual overhead cams.

In my case, my warrantee is over and I wanted the highest output kit. I was in a rush to get the supercharger so I was the guinea pig for the TTORA Club and bought the Hi-Lux kit and adapted it to the Taco. Since that time, Alpine got the contract to produce a lower power kit for TRD and during R&D, also developed Alpine kits for the Tacoma which are much simpler to install.

So, you have to ask your self some questions. How much is the extra power worth to you? Do you need a warrantee? Can you install the kit your self or find someone that can do it for you?

Save your bucks and get the S/C first.

fyi the alpine is in the us now, gary boler stuck that in my head

ok i will, ur opinion...which 1 would u go with NOW...

Yes! And NO!

The Alpine TRD kit is identical to the TRD kit except for the TRD emblem and the parts will interchange. The Alpine version retails for $1,900 + import/shipping which is about $400 to $500.

The TRD and NON-Decompressed Alpine Original kit. The install is just about the same either way, but the Alpine also includes a Unichip Computer and Auxiliary Fuel Injector. This means the computer also has to be installed and wired in. I hid my UniChip under the passenger kick panel with Velcro. The Alpine develops more hp with a higher boost and fuel enhancement for the same or even lower cost than the TRD.

The Original Alpine Supercharger is larger (M-90) than the TRD version (M-62) and is suppose to be more efficient. None of the parts between the two kits is interchangeable because of the differences in the blowers although they install the same way.

ALL the kits feature a bypass valve to reduce the parasitic loss when boost is not needed.

Don't even need to think about it, I'd go with the Decompressed Alpine and 8 psi boost. I'd also buy the 11.5 psi pulley. (Shusss - it's a secret)

I've heard that but I have yet to hear of one available or of someone that has bought one.

damn , now i though i was confused about which one i wanted b4, wow, alot to think about, im still going on the kick that i want the alpine original.hopeimng i can get some help or support to install it, not sure where im gonna hide the unichip because i gt custom kick panels with speakers, mayb in the glove box with my ps1, if you have any more info, i would grealy appreciate it, it helps to make or break my decission, does the kit come with a mountable psi gauge? just curious, do u have any stats about hp and torque increase for the 2.7l the homepage for alpine only has te 2.4, or thats all that pops up

I just recently found out that the Decompressed Alpine comes with everything you need to run decompressed or stock. It has the decompression spacer and associated parts, and both a 5 psi pulley and the 8 psi pulley. It also has the UniChip piggyback computer and the auxiliary fuel injector. This is definitely the kit to buy.

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o yeah wait till mycc is up to 3000 dollars, im gettin me a new toy

The company is Alpine Developments that makes the supercharger. That's Alpine-Development.co.za.

i have an el prototype turbo kit in my tacoma and i can't wait for a 4cly supercharged tacoma to go heads up with

yeah I would like to see how a Turbo would to against a Super... I know that Super will be better off the line.. but long run.. I dunno... Turbo may be better.. but I would like to see it... that would help me decided

trdstreetfighter, i have a question for you since it seems that you know alot about tacomas. i'm looking for a limited slip diff for my 4cly tacoma with a 7 1/2 rear end but can't find one. i need something that will help me hook up without loosing 1st and 2nd gear and also be streetable

look at powertrax .com they go ur limited slip, sorry i know im not street figter, but i fig id put in my 2 cents

I also have a ELP turbo and would Love to line up with a S/C-4.

Just wondering what is the 1/4mi times for all of you other turbo'd 4's here? Or dyno results?

someone is selling a Locker on the FOR sale section

You can spool up the rear end... or pay 700+ for a locker... you get the same performance... unless you go air locker... which installed will easily run you 1300 bucks... spool... 200 to 300 bones... lockers 700 to 1300... Either way you'll want a ladder bar to prevent traction loss too...