Archive Mega-Thread: X-Runner Inaugural Pricing

Does anyone know what the X runner is going to retail for? http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mudtaco.gif

between 23,000-26,000. that's what everyone on here's guesstmating.

I'm thinking more like 28,000. 30-31,000 out the door.

well i dunno about that much in price, i do know that i watched the video and he said that it's for the younger truck enthusiast's. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif

i think it will MSRP at 21 or 22k, but i'm just about the only one that thinks that. it's all guessing who, no one will know till it comes out

That's no concept truck you're looking at. Its 18-inch 45-series V-rated radials and alloy wheels are for real. Its 0-to-60 [1] in just over 7 seconds and its 240 horsepower V6 with 275 pound feet of torque are for real. Yes, the X-Runner's one tough street truck. And soon it'll be within your grasp.

off of the toyota site...

that's all good, the horsepower and all, but what's the mph? 105? http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gifgive me a break that thing had better break 130 to impress me http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

i say we start placing bets on what the msrp is... you know kinda like an office pool http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

my guess for the poll is $25,599 sticker price

As for how much the X-Runner costs, my humble guess is probably (hopefully) low $20's, maybe 1 or 2 grand over the current s-runner. I think it would be pretty sweet to have a brand new x-runner, complete w/ TRD supercharger installed come August or September. I've been seriously car shopping since December, and if I can get a truck that outhandles and outruns most sports cars (even a Z), I'm all over that like white on rice.

As for the digression going on in this thread, I can only say what I know -- I've got a '91 4x2 base suspension with the 2.4L 22R-E engine w/ a 5-spd manual. I have a speedo that goes to 110, and I've had the needle touch that line with one passenger (total weight in the truck about 600 pounds with me, passenger, subs & amp, tools and truck box) with the tailgate up. I have tires that are 275x70R14's on American Racing wheels -- by no means a z-rated tire, and pretty tall for a base suspension truck. I would put down some serious money that an s-r (blown or not) with 15's or 16's could easilly break 120, probably even 140 w/ the tailgate down. Unless you've changed the gearing, it's probably mathematically capable of 160 @ redline, but wind drag will probably limit you to about 140.

Now, back on topic! Damn, that x-runner looks sweet. I can't wait to get one and put some 19's on it w/ some z-rated tires. I'll rip that gubberner out of there and take a pic of my dash as I hit 4500 RPM in _6th_ gear heh, now I have a good excuse for putting a new speedo in too Anyone know how to go about replacing the factory speedo with one from a porsche or ferrari???? http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evil.gif

I sure hope it's around 22k! But I doubt they will let it go for that http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif We'll see!

i bet the X-runner will be around 26,000-28,000

i bet the X-runner will be around 26,000-28,000


this sound more realsitic maybe even a dollar or too higher, beacuse if the performance stuff, hell look at a colorado ex cab or 4 door they reach up in to the lower 30000 dollar range. i saw on at a show for 33000 dollar, which is way over priced hell my mom and dad a couple months ago got a 03 excab seirra ith everything ex leather and onstar and it was just 25000, that is sad cause it is a full size not a uh.. medium size.

i dunno the price could be lower than we all expect. look at the Nissan Titan, i think they start for only $22,000. If the X is any higher than $25,000 im definetly getting an S.

alright well this is the only thing i have heard about the price....take it for what its worth. 23k sounds damn good to me......http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7475&sid=275&n=157

if 23k is the MSRP then that is GREAT news. That's approximately a $500 increase over 2004 MSRP and that's not much at all -- especially considering the great improvements across the board.

Double Cab Long Bed is looking good now!

Double Cab Long Bed is looking good now!

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Double Cab Long Bed is looking good now!

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Pip, Toyota has a new 05 Tacoma model coming out soon, and they are offering a double cab model with a long bed, please next time pay attention in class http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

pics???

pics???


Damnit, you of all people, I shouldnt have to tell you to use the search function http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif

Ok so really there are quite a few posts floating around in the archives, probably just a few days to one week ago, happy searching

www.pickuptruck.com (http://www.pickuptruck.com) where have you been pip? and btw that prices isnt that bad

ok fine
long bed
http://www.pickuptruck.com/IMAGES/2005/toyota/tacoma/taco11.jpg
http://www.pickuptruck.com/IMAGES/2005/toyota/tacoma/taco12.jpg
short bed
http://www.pickuptruck.com/IMAGES/2005/toyota/tacoma/taco13.jpg

I'm not 100% certain about the Car Connection article... Though it focuses on the X-Runner in the end, it's supposedly covering all the '05's. As a result, I'm not ready to assume the stated $23,000 MSRP is a done deal (for the XR). http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

On the other hand... If it does come in at circa $23 - 24K MSRP then Pip, Reaper13, FishTaco, me, and some others did a pretty good job of guesstimating in last spring's speculation about the XR's pricing (http://www.customtacos.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=tacotalk&Number=236601). http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

kool.. shouldnt be an option.. should be standard http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

i wonder who is going to be the first to bag it http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I was reading through the new issue of Automobile and they listed the XR price as $26,500
Bit pricey considering when you can get the TRD SC it will run you abotu 30k to leave the lot.

damn s0n... looks like its still s-runner for me http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

If that's the price, I'm glad I ordered my SR when I did. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Thanks for the info. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

damn s0n... looks like its still s-runner for me http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif



Heck yeah! http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jawdrop.gif You can have a beast of an S for that price!

I was reading through the new issue of Automobile and they listed the XR price as $26,500



Hmmmmmm.... http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

This price increase of 25 - 30% would have further tilted me toward the '04 SR had I known it last spring. I'm still glad I went ahead and got the '04...

that's MSRP on a new-model...

Go config an 04 double cab... MSRP is gonna be around $26 for it... You'll pay no more than 22k for it, tho.

that's MSRP on a new-model...

Go config an 04 double cab... MSRP is gonna be around $26 for it... You'll pay no more than 22k for it, tho.

hmm i tend to disagree... the s-runner sticker for me was $21,185 and the dealer knew exactly what they were selling.. didnt even think of budging on the price.. i have a strong feeling once some of the "smarter" salesman learn the capability the x-runner has.. im sure they will not negotiate the price...

: You can have a beast of an S for that price!



but imagine that possiblilities with an XR. more moeny to do it, but i bet its gonna be a tad bit quicker.

its all about power to weight. I'm willing to bet they are about even.

remember that there will only be a limited quantity of X-Runners made.... 3500 right? Mark my words... There will be no price break.

remember that there will only be a limited quantity of X-Runners made.... 3500 right? Mark my words... There will be no price break.

thank you colin! http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

A toyota saleman given a price break http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eyecrazy.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eyecrazy.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eyecrazy.gif who did you have to Fuk to get that discount!!!!!!!!!!!!

The supercharger for the XR? I've heard rumors of one but none of these magazine reviews are talking about test driving one. You'd think they'd have one supercharged one test driven if they planned on selling it that way. I've been told toyota has had problems blowing up those XR engines with a blower attached because all the aluminum internals are so damn light. xtrapsi will back me up that it was a very reliable source this info came from. Those x-runner's might be N/A. Which one of these performance nuts will want one then? Not me.

i planned on putting in new pistons anyway....along with rod's and a few other things. the more boost the better....who needs S/c anyway....lol

I'd like to drop in one of those 6 speed trannys.

Anybody else see what _Motor Trend_ (10/04 issue) said about the X-Runner's fun quotient? MT writer Steven Cole Smith says:

"We didn't get a chance to run the test numbers on the X-Runner Access Cab, but we're confident it will generate the claimed 0.9 g of grip on the skidpad. The problem: it isn't that much fun. The six-speed has a long throw--fine for a regular truck, but ungainly in a sporty one. The ride is jarring, and the body cladding, assuming it doesn't get wiped out on the first curb you jump, is a bit flashy. We'll have to rethink the X-Runner.

I don't know what he means by "jarring" ride. A performance suspenson could be described as "jarring," and if so I'll take it over a comfortable suspension any day of the week.

I don't know what he means by "jarring" ride. A performance suspenson could be described as "jarring," and if so I'll take it over a comfortable suspension any day of the week.



My guess is that he means 'jarring' as in 'stiff and bouncy', just like the '04 SR's...

Anybody else see what _Motor Trend_ (10/04 issue) said about the X-Runner's fun quotient? MT writer Steven Cole Smith says:

"We didn't get a chance to run the test numbers on the X-Runner Access Cab, but we're confident it will generate the claimed 0.9 g of grip on the skidpad. The problem: it isn't that much fun. The six-speed has a long throw--fine for a regular truck, but ungainly in a sporty one. The ride is jarring, and the body cladding, assuming it doesn't get wiped out on the first curb you jump, is a bit flashy. We'll have to rethink the X-Runner.

I don't know what he means by "jarring" ride. A performance suspenson could be described as "jarring," and if so I'll take it over a comfortable suspension any day of the week.



so they're saying the truck needs a short shifter, about like the 04's, the throw is long as well.
it has a stiff suspension, I.E. good handling? thats what it says to me.
and get whiped out going over curbs? if you go over a curb in a XR, you've [censored] up big time, i mean it's not a pre-runner of 4x4, i don't think anyone with an XR will be curb jumping. i think that guy is retarded and is trying to compair the XR to an offroad truck.

so they're saying the truck needs a short shifter, about like the 04's, the throw is long as well.
it has a stiff suspension, I.E. good handling? thats what it says to me.




well.. i dont know what you are talking about when you mention the 04... if you are talking about the S Runner, my 01 only has a 4 inch throw. it's pretty short already.

and i dont think the SR is stiff at all... but then again, im used to some pretty stiff full race suspensions on light cars. but i think what they mean by "jarring", is that the rear end is kind of skittish. and that is exactly to be expected with a solid rear axel when the suspension is stiffened up. for that matter, my 67 SS 396 Chevelle was skittish, and so is my SR.

i dont put a lot of faith in car magazines anyway.
for example... we tested the F1 turbo bling bling, and although it pulled 2 lateral G's, slalomed at 100 mph, 100 to 0 in 50 feet, and 0 to 100 mph in 3 seconds, but we diddnt like the cup holders, and so we gave the win to the 1988 Yugo.

however, the general public demands their cupholders... therefore, the way the magazines write, is completely useless to me. yes, it's not all their fault that the public wants to see writing like this, but some of the writers do not seem to know a whole lot about cars or physics... and neither does the general public.

but i think Toyota was brilliant in comparing the XR to the 350z with it's .90 lateral G's.... it's got some of the people right here fooled. sure, they fail to mention that if you put the RE050 tires on the 350z, then it would pull over one G, but again, the general public has no clue about tires. the general public is gonna be pissed, when they have bald tires on their 10,000 to 15,000 mile XR. and then they will go to Pep Boys and get some 60,000 mile tires, and be happy. nevermind that the truck now pulls .70 G's, and takes twice the distance to stop.

on that note, i will have the new tires on the SR soon, ( Azenis Sport RT 215 ) and will do a 200 foot skidpad, with the time and math, and also a Valentine G Analyst reading to back it up.
anyone want to bet it will be well over .90 G's ?
dave

Anybody else see what _Motor Trend_ (10/04 issue) said about the X-Runner's fun quotient? MT writer Steven Cole Smith says:

"We didn't get a chance to run the test numbers on the X-Runner Access Cab, but we're confident it will generate the claimed 0.9 g of grip on the skidpad. The problem: it isn't that much fun. The six-speed has a long throw--fine for a regular truck, but ungainly in a sporty one. The ride is jarring, and the body cladding, assuming it doesn't get wiped out on the first curb you jump, is a bit flashy. We'll have to rethink the X-Runner.

I don't know what he means by "jarring" ride. A performance suspenson could be described as "jarring," and if so I'll take it over a comfortable suspension any day of the week.



Well this just confirms my thoughts......the people at Motor Trend are in fact IDIOTS. Who's curb jumping a 2wd truck lowered truck???? They think that all trucks should now be cars and handle and have the suspension of a luxury car. They are morons, that is why I don't believe a single review they write. I do enjoy that fact that every Dodge that I have seen a review posted for gets excellent reviews.....further proof.

On topic - it's a shame that there will no longer be a reasonably priced option for people who need something that's fun to drive, yet still super practical.

Off topic...


on that note, i will have the new tires on the SR soon, ( Azenis Sport RT 215 ) and will do a 200 foot skidpad, with the time and math, and also a Valentine G Analyst reading to back it up.



I assume you're not talking stock wheels? The only Azenis Sports I can find in 16" are 205 and 215 widths...

im leaning to the 245-45-17. that is, if i can find light wheels... so far, about 16 lbs each is the lightest in affordable wheels.
keep in mind that all sizes of RT-215 are oversized... the 245 actually measures 258 mm section width.
if i cant find a light set of affordable wheels soon, i may wait till the 2005 Azenis, with the same RT-215 rubber compound comes out next month... may be made in a wide 16.
dave

Just out of curiousity what 16 lb wheels did you find in 17" ?http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif I had my eye on SSR Competition wheels but couldn't justify the $390/wheel price tag.

Just out of curiousity what 16 lb wheels did you find in 17" ?http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif I had my eye on SSR Competition wheels but couldn't justify the $390/wheel price tag.



thats exactly the wheel i'll probably end up with.
i refuse to buy 25+ lb wheels like most people do, just to save money.
there is a website with wheel weights... i'll try to find it and post it here later.
dave

The site I used was http://wheelspecs.com/main/index.php

Attached is an Excel spreadsheet that will allow you to sort their specs in any order you want by choosing which column to sort by. It is not 100% complete and may be slightly outdated.

you must mean:

wheel weights (http://www.wheelweights.net)

there are a lot of very light 17 x 8 and 17 x 8.5 wheels around 13-14 lb range... and yes, the list is somewhat outdated.
unsprung weight is a huge effect... most people do use wheels that are over 20 lbs... you are better off with the stock wheels.
another thing i forgot to mention... the Azenis RT 215 in a 215-45-16 has an actual section width of 228 mm... however the tread width is actually about 4 mm wider than the stock S Runner 235-55-16 Bridgestone Potenza RE 910's. the diameter is slightly smaller with the Azenis, which will give me about the overall ratio that i want.
yeah, the sizing on all the Azenis are wacked out, but in a good way.
so i have not commited 100 % to go to 17's... no, i could care less about looks...
dave

I've got the Enkie RPM02s. They are pretty light for 17x9s. And cheap too.

you must mean:

wheel weights (http://www.wheelweights.net)

The guy from wheelweights.net joined forces with wheelspecs.com a while back. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif If you look at the Note section of many of the wheels on wheelspecs.com it says the following: "Notes:
Wheel weight(s) provided by wheelweights.net" http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

If it hasnt been posted here it is to lazy to check:


2005 TOYOTA TACOMA PRICING


The all-new, 2005 Tacoma marks a new era for Toyota in the light truck market. The eighth-generation Toyota compact pickup offers more of just about everything than ever before – more passenger room, cargo volume and towing capacity and improved ride comfort, performance, handling and fuel economy all at significantly improved value, without losing any of its legendary, rugged OffRoad capability.


Tacoma grows by almost six inches in overall length, adds five inches to its Wheelbase and widens its track by four inches. The added size translates into enhanced interior roominess and comfort.


Tacoma continues to offer a choice of four-cylinder or six-cylinder engines. The base 2.7L four-cylinder now has Variable Valve Timing with Intelligence (VVT-i) and creates 164 HP, an increase of 14 HP from last year, and 183 lb-ft of torque, up 6 lb-ft from last year. The four-cylinder is available with either a five-speed manual or four-speed automatic transmission. A new 4.0L V6 with VVT-i replaces the previous model’s 3.4L V6. The 4.0L provides 245 HP, an improvement of 55 HP from last year’s V6 and 282 lb-ft of torque, an increase of 62 lb-ft. The six-cylinder engine is available with either a six-speed manual transmission or five-speed automatic. Even with these significant increases in power, Tacoma’s fuel economy actually improves for 2005.


Unlike our competitors, Tacoma continues to offer a full-range of pickup choices


– the base two-door Regular Cab, the Access Cab with two rear access doors and the Double Cab with full-size rear-opening doors. Double Cab comes with a choice of regular or long bed.


Tacoma Regular Cab models offer a high-level of standard equipment:


• Grey-painted grille surround and rear bumper
• Overfenders on PreRunner and 4x4 models
• 15” steel wheels (16” styled steel on PreRunner and 4x4)
• SMC composite bed
• Bed utility rail system with four adjustable tie-down cleats
• Mudguards
• Bench seat
• Full-size spare
• 2 IP powerpoints with cigarette lighter
• AM/FM/CD audio with 4 speakers
• Gated A/T shifter
• Tri-pod style instrument cluster with orange illumination
• Manual tilt and telescopic steering wheel
• Tachometer
• Digital clock
• CRS tether anchors and lower anchorage points
• Front passenger airbag cut-off switch
• Anti-lock brakes (ABS) with Brake Assist and Electronic-Braking Distribution


For 2005, Tacoma Regular Cab prices start at $13,415 for the 4x2 4-cylinder with a manual transmission and ranges to $17,360 for the 4x4 4-cylinder with a manual transmission.


In addition to or in place of the Regular Cab content, Tacoma Access Cab models feature:


• Dual rear access doors
• 15” styled steel wheels (16” styled steel on PreRunner and 4x4)
• Front bucket seats with passenger’s seat fold-flat function and seat-back tray
• Walk-in memory passenger seat
• Center console with cupholders and storage
• Tumble-flat rear seats with underseat storage
• Overhead console with maplights, garage door opener bin and sunglasses
storage
• AM/FM/CD audio with 6 speakers
• Air conditioning


Access Cab prices range from $16,855 for 4x2 4-cylinder with manual transmission to $23,125 for a 4x4 V6 with an automatic transmission. PreRunner Access Cab models range from $17,615 for a 4-cylinder with manual to $19,950 for a V6 with the five-speed automatic.


New for 2005 is the Tacoma X-Runner performance truck. The X-Runner features a lowered-suspension with Bilstein gas shocks, 18-inch alloy wheels with specially designed P255/45/R18 Bridgestone Potenza tires, color-keyed bumpers, overfenders, grille surround, door handles, mirrors and body kit. The X-Runner also includes standard power windows, locks and mirrors, keyless entry, fog lamps, limited slip differential, sport seats with a unique fabric design and a 400W/115V deck-mounted power outlet. Only available with the 6-speed manual transmission, the Tacoma X-Runner is capable of zero-to-60 acceleration times under 7.0 seconds with better handling than many sports cars. X-Runner has a base MSRP of $23,110.


Tacoma Double Cab includes the following features in addition to or in place of the Access Cab models:


• 16” styled steel wheels
• Power windows, locks and mirrors
• SR5 seat fabric with fold-flat passenger’s seat
• Manual lumber adjustment
• Storage unit behind rear seat


Double Cab prices range from $21,675 for a PreRunner V6 to $25,250 for a 4x4 V6 with the long bed.


Although Tacoma’s base prices increase from last year, it is important to note that the new Tacoma includes most of the equipment that was being added as optional equipment at high installation rates on last year’s model. As a result, the 2005 Tacoma’s base prices are nearly the same as or below last year’s typically equipped prices even with all of its outstanding product improvements and feature enhancements.


OPTIONS
In addition to the outstanding standard feature content of the new Tacoma, several key option packages are also available:


SR5 Packages
• Chrome grille surround and rear bumper
• Color-keyed overfenders (PreRunner and 4x4) and front bumper
• Power windows, locks and mirrors
• Keyless entry
• Cruise control
• Metallic tone instrument panel finish
• Bucket seats with upgrade seat fabric (standard on Double Cab)
• Leather steering wheel and shifter
• Variable intermittent wipers
• Air conditioning
• Sliding rear window


TRD Off-Road Packages (requires V6 and includes SR5 content)


• 16” alloy wheels with 265/70R16 BF Goodrich Rugged Trail SWL tires
• Foglamps
• Sport seats with 4-way manual adjust with lumbar
• Compass and temperature display in overhead console
• Rear differential lock
• Off-road suspension with Bilstein gas-charged shocks
• 400W/115V deck-mounted power outlet


TRD Sport Package (requires V6 and includes SR5 content)


• Color-keyed rear bumper, door handles, mirrors and grille surround
• Hood scoop
• 17” alloy wheels with 265/65R17 Bridgestone Dueler tires
• Fog lamps
• Sport seats with 4-way manual adjust with lumbar
• Compass and temperature display in overhead console
• Limited slip rear differential
• Sport suspension with Bilstein gas-charge shocks
• 400W/115V deck-mounted power outlet

If it hasnt been posted here it is to lazy to check:


2005 TOYOTA TACOMA PRICING


The all-new, 2005 Tacoma marks a new era for Toyota in the light truck market. The eighth-generation Toyota compact pickup offers more of just about everything than ever before – more passenger room, cargo volume and towing capacity and improved ride comfort, performance, handling and fuel economy all at significantly improved value, without losing any of its legendary, rugged OffRoad capability.


Tacoma grows by almost six inches in overall length, adds five inches to its Wheelbase and widens its track by four inches. The added size translates into enhanced interior roominess and comfort.


Tacoma continues to offer a choice of four-cylinder or six-cylinder engines. The base 2.7L four-cylinder now has Variable Valve Timing with Intelligence (VVT-i) and creates 164 HP, an increase of 14 HP from last year, and 183 lb-ft of torque, up 6 lb-ft from last year. The four-cylinder is available with either a five-speed manual or four-speed automatic transmission. A new 4.0L V6 with VVT-i replaces the previous model’s 3.4L V6. The 4.0L provides 245 HP, an improvement of 55 HP from last year’s V6 and 282 lb-ft of torque, an increase of 62 lb-ft. The six-cylinder engine is available with either a six-speed manual transmission or five-speed automatic. Even with these significant increases in power, Tacoma’s fuel economy actually improves for 2005.


Unlike our competitors, Tacoma continues to offer a full-range of pickup choices


– the base two-door Regular Cab, the Access Cab with two rear access doors and the Double Cab with full-size rear-opening doors. Double Cab comes with a choice of regular or long bed.


Tacoma Regular Cab models offer a high-level of standard equipment:


• Grey-painted grille surround and rear bumper
• Overfenders on PreRunner and 4x4 models
• 15” steel wheels (16” styled steel on PreRunner and 4x4)
• SMC composite bed
• Bed utility rail system with four adjustable tie-down cleats
• Mudguards
• Bench seat
• Full-size spare
• 2 IP powerpoints with cigarette lighter
• AM/FM/CD audio with 4 speakers
• Gated A/T shifter
• Tri-pod style instrument cluster with orange illumination
• Manual tilt and telescopic steering wheel
• Tachometer
• Digital clock
• CRS tether anchors and lower anchorage points
• Front passenger airbag cut-off switch
• Anti-lock brakes (ABS) with Brake Assist and Electronic-Braking Distribution


For 2005, Tacoma Regular Cab prices start at $13,415 for the 4x2 4-cylinder with a manual transmission and ranges to $17,360 for the 4x4 4-cylinder with a manual transmission.


In addition to or in place of the Regular Cab content, Tacoma Access Cab models feature:


• Dual rear access doors
• 15” styled steel wheels (16” styled steel on PreRunner and 4x4)
• Front bucket seats with passenger’s seat fold-flat function and seat-back tray
• Walk-in memory passenger seat
• Center console with cupholders and storage
• Tumble-flat rear seats with underseat storage
• Overhead console with maplights, garage door opener bin and sunglasses
storage
• AM/FM/CD audio with 6 speakers
• Air conditioning


Access Cab prices range from $16,855 for 4x2 4-cylinder with manual transmission to $23,125 for a 4x4 V6 with an automatic transmission. PreRunner Access Cab models range from $17,615 for a 4-cylinder with manual to $19,950 for a V6 with the five-speed automatic.


New for 2005 is the Tacoma X-Runner performance truck. The X-Runner features a lowered-suspension with Bilstein gas shocks, 18-inch alloy wheels with specially designed P255/45/R18 Bridgestone Potenza tires, color-keyed bumpers, overfenders, grille surround, door handles, mirrors and body kit. The X-Runner also includes standard power windows, locks and mirrors, keyless entry, fog lamps, limited slip differential, sport seats with a unique fabric design and a 400W/115V deck-mounted power outlet. Only available with the 6-speed manual transmission, the Tacoma X-Runner is capable of zero-to-60 acceleration times under 7.0 seconds with better handling than many sports cars. X-Runner has a base MSRP of $23,110.


Tacoma Double Cab includes the following features in addition to or in place of the Access Cab models:


• 16” styled steel wheels
• Power windows, locks and mirrors
• SR5 seat fabric with fold-flat passenger’s seat
• Manual lumber adjustment
• Storage unit behind rear seat


Double Cab prices range from $21,675 for a PreRunner V6 to $25,250 for a 4x4 V6 with the long bed.


Although Tacoma’s base prices increase from last year, it is important to note that the new Tacoma includes most of the equipment that was being added as optional equipment at high installation rates on last year’s model. As a result, the 2005 Tacoma’s base prices are nearly the same as or below last year’s typically equipped prices even with all of its outstanding product improvements and feature enhancements.


OPTIONS
In addition to the outstanding standard feature content of the new Tacoma, several key option packages are also available:


SR5 Packages
• Chrome grille surround and rear bumper
• Color-keyed overfenders (PreRunner and 4x4) and front bumper
• Power windows, locks and mirrors
• Keyless entry
• Cruise control
• Metallic tone instrument panel finish
• Bucket seats with upgrade seat fabric (standard on Double Cab)
• Leather steering wheel and shifter
• Variable intermittent wipers
• Air conditioning
• Sliding rear window


TRD Off-Road Packages (requires V6 and includes SR5 content)


• 16” alloy wheels with 265/70R16 BF Goodrich Rugged Trail SWL tires
• Foglamps
• Sport seats with 4-way manual adjust with lumbar
• Compass and temperature display in overhead console
• Rear differential lock
• Off-road suspension with Bilstein gas-charged shocks
• 400W/115V deck-mounted power outlet


TRD Sport Package (requires V6 and includes SR5 content)


• Color-keyed rear bumper, door handles, mirrors and grille surround
• Hood scoop
• 17” alloy wheels with 265/65R17 Bridgestone Dueler tires
• Fog lamps
• Sport seats with 4-way manual adjust with lumbar
• Compass and temperature display in overhead console
• Limited slip rear differential
• Sport suspension with Bilstein gas-charge shocks
• 400W/115V deck-mounted power outlet



great post http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/clapping.gif some things i liked:
2 IP powerpoints with cigarette lighter...i needed more power outlits.
Tachometer...a stock tach. on all models.
Walk-in memory passenger seat....memory seats, nice.

and the XR starts at aprx. $23k, a little high, but not too bad.

that does not come out and say it, but it acts like the XR gets the body kit stock....so anyone that plans to buy a speedway blue non-XR extra cab, wanna trade, stock bumper(s) for the body kit?

I'll take a blue X-Runner with a supercharger http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

http://img48.exs.cx/img48/5828/xrunner061copy.jpg
something I whipped up .... Thought it looks okay, not the best photochop but I tried...

Wow.... 23k.... Definitely want me an X. Perhaps if they're still makin them for the next 4 years, I'll be able to order one to go with the S. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/clapping.gif

I attended a NASCAR race at the California Speedway this past weekend and was able to physically see and sit in the 2005 PreTaco and Doublecab. Personally, I didn't like the overall size of it. What happened to the mini-taco? I'll give Toyota this, it is more comfortable and roomier, but that's not what I wanted. I do like the extras that they are coming with, tho. Just reminds me of a Tundra and that's too big for my taste. My 2 cents.

I love how they're bringing back the standard cab 4x4 4cyl. I might actually consider selling my truck truck for that.

I love how they're bringing back the standard cab 4x4 4cyl. I might actually consider selling my truck truck for that.



Don't they already have that? With the 3RZ?

Nope, all they had in the standard cab 4 cyl was the PreRunner. The last year for a standard cab 4wd was 1998 (I think).

I got a buddy with a reg cab 2.7 4wd '03. I wanted to buy it awhile back... http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gifhttp://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif

According to Toyota they still make a 4x4 Reg Cab 4 cylinder. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif
http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/2004/tacoma/specs_4x4.html

I stand corrected.

I couldn't find one out here for the life of me. From what I was told, they were no longer available. That's when I decided to start hacking up my truck.

Nope, all they had in the standard cab 4 cyl was the PreRunner. The last year for a standard cab 4wd was 1998 (I think).


ur wrong!!!!! i have 3 on my holler. and know of a few more,. hell there are a few on this site.

I know that now. I'm kinda pissed cause I really wanted one a few years ago, but I was told that they didn't exist.

Maybe you got confused they don't make a standard cab 4x4 V6.

The prices are about the same as the last generation when they were released, slightly more but you're also paying for a bigger truck with more options.

Maybe you got confused they don't make a standard cab 4x4 V6.

Nah, I knew what I was looking for. No one had a 4wd standard cab, they were all 4 cyl PreRunners, and they told me that they didn't exist after like 98 or something.

Maybe you got confused they don't make a standard cab 4x4 V6.

Nah, I knew what I was looking for. No one had a 4wd standard cab, they were all 4 cyl PreRunners, and they told me that they didn't exist after like 98 or something.


haha u have to special order mini's around here, i have seen 5 newer one, and bout 7 of the 97-00 models in mini form. everything is prerunner or 4x4. mostly 4x4.

ok i spend all day trying to buy an x runner. found two. first one was black, did all the paperwork, talked them to 22900, and then i need to check with my local dealer to see if they can match it (weve bought 5 from them, so they are good to us). they said they have nothing on them till monday, so i said f it and called the other place back and said im coming to get it. i get there, dragging my dad ofcourse to sign off my car(its in his na,me) but yeah they sold it in those 15 min. carson toyota had one, so i drove down there. drove that around, but they wanted 28800, yes like 5 k more than the other, plus it was blue and i didnt like it in person. also, i dont think its any quicker or not much than my current car. chirped 2nd with 4 adults tho. so i got nothing. tomarrow i start my search again, although they both said that there is no more in socal, but they lie alot. thanks for reading lol. (overall feel of the car wasnt very refined, shifter wasnt crisp, noisy engine, 16, 21 mpg!!!!)

jon

good luck with the search. the black one looks freaking awesome. there's a black xrunner here in omaha, nebraska but i'm sure that won't last too long.

to make it worse, after i posted that, hammer toyota called me said come get the truck for 23 700, i said fine. get down there and they try to tell me my truck is in fair condition, and wont give me any time to take of the s/c. bunch of [censored], but i will have one soon. i promise.

The period of initial introduction is always chaotic... The worst thing I've heard on the '05 Taco buying experience (so far) is that some dealers are charging 'Market Value Adjustment' (MVA) surcharges of up to $3000 'cause of the current demand. There are a couple of threads over at Tacoma Territory about this...

some dealers don't know their [censored].

i talked to a dealer yesterday (i have 3 dealers looking for X-runners for me http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) and one of the dealers told me straight out that they ONLY come in blue, when i know they come in black red or blue. this same dealer also told me that the X-runner would be sold for $36,000. that dealer was smoking some major crack sense the MSRP is $23,000.



so if you find a blue one that you don't want, let me know and i'll be happy to buy it, i'm looking for a blue one.

Your best bet will to go put some money down and order it. Don't pay more than MSRP though. If you wait till the dealer gets one on their lot, you'll definitely pay over MSRP.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4500564538&catego ry=6439

This is a joke..i heard of dealer add ons but my god.
He got balls saying in his last line.."This is your last chance to get a Xrunner at this price"

Someone is trying too much of his own product (Marysville = meth labs) http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DUDE!! Buy it now for $45,000?! It's a Toyota Tacoma!?

You could be grippin' grain in a Lexus for that...

You could be grippin' grain in a Lexus for that...



http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif I cant wait to see what it ends up going for!

OMG, I had to send that guy and email when I saw this. I just wondered what kind of retard he was...so I had to ask him.
45K, I love toyotas and all, but for 45K, I would be looking at a lot of other rides before I would spend that a extended cab pickup...I don't care who made it.

And watch, someone, who has money to burn, will probably buy that D**N thing.

Hyper

what did your email say?

Holy [censored] hell! What drugs is this guy on? I mean c'mon! Someone should kick him in the nuts just for trying this. 45 grand for a Taco. Riiiight. I'll go buy me a nice G35 or BMW 328CI for that thank you very much.


I sent him an e-mail that said "Are you freakin serious?! 45 grand for an X-Runner. Dude, put the pipe down and step away."

I'll go buy me a nice G35 or BMW 328CI for that thank you very much.




Or better yet, buy an Xrunner for 23K, and keep the rest!

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I'll go buy me a nice G35 or BMW 328CI for that thank you very much.




Or better yet, buy an Xrunner for 23K, and keep the rest!

http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif



Wurd... I sent him an email too... I didn't realize you guys did as well. WTF is that all about?? Are people really that f*cked up?? I mean, I could understand selling it at its MSRP Price, and maybe getting lucky and gettin some higher bids than what it is worth, but to blatently tell people its their last chance to get it at that price is just retarded. Some people just need to die.

I say it's high time I get some "real" truck nuts for my rig. I think this guys would suit the purpose quite well. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I say it's high time I get some "real" truck nuts for my rig. I think this guys would suit the purpose quite well. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Are you sure?... Anyone trying to weasel people out of a nearly-100% markup by hiding behind BS on eBay might well be deficient in the scrotal department... http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evil.gif

Fellas,

I think I know what this guy is up to. I was at the dealer today and they told me there will be a limitd productrion run of 3500 X's this year. Alot of people are gonna be on the prowl to be the first to own one. There are guys out there that make thier living buying and reselling exclusive vehicles that are only produced in limited #'s when the supply dries up which it will shortly. people will go nuts to find one and that's when our friend will get a free truck for himself. When I was at the dealer one of the salesman knows me and he gave me his study packet from the salesmans training meeting. I got all sorts of info on the new trucks. I'll keep you guys posted if I come accross anything noteworthy.

http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jawdrop.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

K... I've been chattin with the dude actually, and I believe the truck is his.... or at least that is what I got from his emails. He doesn't want to sell it, but I guess he is hoping for 5k profit off of it. He already purchased it with warranty and everything for close to 30k. He said that if he doesn't sell it then that was ok with him. Soooo I suggested that he just keeps the X, and comes and joins Customtacos. He's never seen an S, and I just thought I'd invite him to join so maybe he can learn a thing or two and maybe become a taco enthusiast just like ourselves. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

i received a reply from him today. this is what i wrote to him and what he replies
Dear voodootrip,

You asked:
"are you serious? $45000 buy it now and a starting bid at $35000?!? the msrp is in the neighborhood of $23000. this is a rediculous mark-up."

Hi, yes its a little steep. I put the truck on Ebay to get a responds not to make anybody mad. Dennis.



so it does seem it's his and he's just trying to make a small profit off it.

The funny part is that in the text of his add he states "there will only be about 3000 units made so about one per dealer, so this might be your only chance to get an X AT THIS PRICE"
yeah if your a fu cking idiot!

Technically, that IS the only chance you can get an X at THAT price.... http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gifhttp://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif

AND IT WONT BE 1 PER DEALER. MANY DEALERS WONT GET ANY WHILE BIG CITIES WILL GET SEVERAL EACH. whoops. damn caps lock. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif

http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif thank God this guy doesn't know about this website... he'd be a stripped carcass for offereing here at that price... the most he could hope to get for it out here would be about 28K for it...

Yeah.... Heres his reply to me...
You asked:
"Hi, I'm just wondering where you are getting your numbers from.... The X-runner is in full production. My dealer here in AZ has 6 on one lot alone. Not to mention, the price for the X-runner is 26,000 new out the door. You might want to lower the price to where it should be for a used truck if you want to sell..."

Hi, I was told those numbers from a guy who said he got them from Toyota. I like the truck very much so it doesn't matter if it sells or not. I put it on Ebay to get a response from Ebayers. I will tell you this after options and taxes it was almost $30,000.00 . Dennis.

Whatever.......

http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

This could be your only chance to get a X-Runner at this price.




That's right because the stealer wouldn't even rip you off like that. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif

Look at this pic he has for the interior.. it isnt even the same truck , just a stock image from toyota.. the truck int he image is speedway blue... http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doah.gif http://i23.ebayimg.com/01/i/02/be/89/f5_12.JPG

I'm the one who put the X-Runner on Ebay. I just want to say you guys know how to put someone down. I'm not a dealer I paid almost $30,000 for this X and I would do it again. I just turned 46 years old and I love this truck. I've drove a few trucks in my time but nothing like this one. I also have a 1995 Integra GSR so I know my cars.I put the truck on Ebay just to show it off, at the time there wasn't one on the auction. I decided to put at a high price so that it would be a win-win deal. If I didn't sell I get to keep the truck but if it sold at a $5.000 or more profit and would find another X-Runner to buy. I like how everyones runs everybodys else's truck. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

nice truck man! now theres officially one of EACH color x-runner on the customtacos.com message boards...

since you truly seem to be an enthusiast, it's too bad you had to find your way here through these circumstances. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

i see your logic with the ebay auction.. hell, i think any of us would be excited enough to do that if we owned one! http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

nice truck man! now theres officially one of EACH color x-runner on the customtacos.com message boards...





c'mon, now! there was already one of each color XR on this site b4 he joined, now there are 2 black XR's on this site http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

nice truck man! now theres officially one of EACH color x-runner on the customtacos.com message boards...





c'mon, now! there was already one of each color XR on this site b4 he joined, now there are 2 black XR's on this site http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doah.gif

i totally forgot about YOURS!!! http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Now you have a better place to "show off" your truck! We love to look at it and it will get all kinds of compliments here.

I don't go to ebay to gawk at other trucks...I go there to buy stuff. Thats probably why you got flamed for the rediculous pricetag!

Keep the truck you love, and keep us posted on any upgrades you come across and I'm sure the flaming will stop!
Nice truck! http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif



*sell me your stock rims* http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

nice truck man! now theres officially one of EACH color x-runner on the customtacos.com message boards...





c'mon, now! there was already one of each color XR on this site b4 he joined, now there are 2 black XR's on this site http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

u got black?? whay happened to blu?

Hey guys, I'm getting ready to snag one of these things, and I was curious about what kinda monthly payments you guys are making on your trucks. Also, if you don't mind, what kinda downpayment did you put on it to affect the monthly payments? Thanks!

I'm not an XRunner owner but this loan calculator may help you:

www.edmunds.com (http://www.edmunds.com/apps/calc/CalculatorController?tid=edmunds.n.pcalc.calculato r.intro_calc.1.*)

Just plug in the numbers and it'll calculate your payments.
I highly recommend looking through some of the other information on that site.
It will help with the buying process of your new XRunner (or any car for that matter).

Good Luck! http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

truck cost : $23,830
trade in : $7,125
down payment: $0
monthly payment : $393
thats on a 5 year pay off plan.

those numbers just don't sounds right what kind of taxes do you have and what kind of interest rate did you get?

What's your interest rate? You're paying $23,580 for the truck AFTER the trade in....

You shouldn't be paying but like 330 give or take some depeing on the tax and tag crap. and that's with a 5.5 interest rate. something really don't sound right there.

If he's got a 9.9 % interest rate than that is exactly right. You need to figure in 10% for tax lic. and reg. If you got 4.9 then they might have included a warranty into the payment. But it sounds right if you are a teir 3 credit score.

yeah if you don't have a good credit beacon score then yeah your looking at some serious interest on that junk right there. If your not a 600 or better it's hard to get decent financing. if your below a 500 chances are that your not going to get anything good period.
I know that with my 730 i get offered just about anything I want.
I would say that if you don't have good credit that you should just get you a 3g car and pay it off and you will have some good credit that way, and not to go out and by a 23g vehicle with a low score cause well by the end of it you'll pay enough to of bought you a beater.

Quick question for x owners, do you scrape anywhere? i have a few dirtbikes i hall around and want to know if you scrape on curbs ect in the front or middle on speed bumps, hate to take this thing to gorman and then not be able to get in bc some little bump or something, although it doesnt appear that low.....thanks

jon

i don't scrape anywhere, speed bumps don't hit, and small curbs don't hit, i have not pulled up to a big curb to see if it hits or not, but the back and middle do not hit anywhere.

the lowest spot on the truck is the front bumper.

Not to hi-jack the thread...but.....I went to look at an X-runner today and the dealership said that it is limited to 3500 units nationwide and that my best bet is to order it. Also that people will be paying a premium (sticker plus) for these things. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What have others heard from your stealerships????? There was none on the lot

Most of the dealers in the area are selling them at 3k over sticker. I have two coming in less than a week if you want to take a drive to california. No mark up.

Well for those that live near me (not too many around tho) they're probably going to be saving a lot of time by reading this thread...

I finally decided to do the fleet manager bugthemathon... (bug them a thon) I just went to Toyota.com and mailed 24 dealers located ~40 miles of myself in San Francisco...

As some of you know, I got a quote of $23,505 with destination included... I've seen some people over at TS getting under that, but I have no idea if destination was quoted with their price... However I'm not going to sit around for 8 weeks waiting on something I have to pay more for or wait longer than...

So check back maybe in a day or two when I "should" start to get some feedback back from the 24 dealers I mailed... However when I did this for a friend of mine who was in the market for a Corolla a year and a half ago, I didn't get much email responses...

Anyway, for those that wonder how to keep it short and simple, here is exactly what I typed out to each dealer...

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Hi, I'm looking to buy a:

2005 Tacoma XRunner
Black in color
with C4 stock code (security package?)

I like to find out from your fleet manager about the pricing of this truck, and I am not interested in a regular Tacoma, only the XRunner...

I have already gotten quote for 300 off MSRP or $23,505 with destination... I was wondering if you can beat this price...

I would like to pay-off the truck all at once and is there a waiting list?

Thanks,
Ka Man Chan

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I definately hope I can beat my current quote...

That's pretty cool idea, I guess I'm going to have to go and do this for my area. I was talking to a dealer the other day and ended up walking out cause the moron that I was talking to had no clue as to what was entailed in the X-Runner. pretty sad he didn't even know his own products.

Thanks for the info man,
Jeff

... I was talking to a dealer the other day and ended up walking out cause the moron that I was talking to had no clue as to what was entailed in the X-Runner. ...



This is pretty much the way it's been for 4 years with the S-Runners. Toyota managed to keep 'em as much a mystery to their own sales network as to the public at large... Hang in there...

good luck. I did the same thing but for my new dub cab. I emailed 8 nearby dealers and got responses from all within probably 12 hours. One of them was more than 2k below MSRP. Guess where I'm going soon. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

$22,948 at Carsdirect.com, $23,247 if you add the security system

Can anyone ACTUALLY get the XR for under that much?

Remember tho this is with destination... Thats almost another 600...

I got a quote from Fremont stating they have one in stock, 500 off MSRP so $23.305...

I'm going to give them a call hopefully it'll be set and done the next time you guys hear from me!!!

BTW, I got 2 quotes back and all other emails are junk!! Toyota has horrible internet sales... Subaru does a grand job and I got 5 out of 5 when I was WRX shopping 2 years ago...

I can get them for $22,750 with the extra mile package.Today at the dealership I was getting my oil changed and they had 4 X-Runners on the lot ready to go.Mind you this is the smaller of the dealerships around.They were also the ones that were able to get me my S when no one else would.

Too bad I don't live around Houston...

How many miles are the extra miles we talking about tho? I'm not getting anything over 5 on the odo...

However Fremont has one for $23,305 with ~40 to 50 miles on it... I passed it up and asked for them to order me one brand new...

I got a quote back from the Palo Alto dealer also for $500 off MSRP...

So far this seems to be the best deal around the bay area, but I'm still interested in the price of any other area ***WITH DESTINATION*** to compare how it changes geographically...

P.S. Did you ask why they don't sell them for higher? Or is there a special rate for yourself? I wonder why they want to sell so low when there are hordes of people that are willing to buy MSRP... I'm one of them but I don't want to if I don't have to...

The dealership really wants my truck(or the service manager does) and they know I know more about the truck than they do.They have more on the sticker and they know I will not eventhink about it.Plus these trucks are all sitting on one lot and they need to go.

OMG you didn't buy the truck you are looking for because it has 40 miles on it? Give me a break. Just buy the damn thing.

You know what, it takes me a VERY long time to save up the cost of a XR... I personally driven the one at SF dealer for 3 miles... Lets just say I wouldn't want to own that truck after those 3 miles...

40 might not seem like much, but lets say 40 is long enough to hit 100 plus more than 10 times... I'm not saying it has, but there are XRs waiting to be bought with less...

I told them to order me one anyways for the SAME price... I don't see why I would buy one with 40 - 50 miles on it just to be "cool" for 4 weeks...

This truck is going to be my baby until I break it in, then all hell breaks loose http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I usually don't do double posts on any forums but since this is off the first page I just want to share one more thing about pricing after I placed my order again...

The savings I got came with a Costco card... The dealer obviously takes the Costco savings plan and I would advise anyone who is looking to buy ANY new car to ask for a Costco discount... Costco is a wholesale dealer and I'm not sure if they have it on the east coast, but if you're in the west, you should know what I'm talking about...

Next is about the C4 stock code... This stock code refers to the floor mats which I've been told today that they generally don't ship the trucks without them... This puts the MSRP at exactly $23,805... The destination is included in this price and any discouts you receive SHOULD come from this price unless otherwise noted... However, I've actually seen on a locator list that there ARE trucks that ship without floor mats... So for those that want the BEST bargin out there, I suggest you work hard to make your dealer ask for a truck without these because they're a hair raising investment at $130 a pop!!!

Also, as about that 40 - 50 mile truck that was in stock... It was parked in the showroom and needless to say every 5 year old that tagged along with their parents to pick up their Camry had a time climbing on top of the truck bed and what not... Not to mention there seems to be a bit of ware and tare along with the 40 - 50 miles... I'm better of new http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Just got back from Walnut Creek Toyota and they have a Black X-Runner for $23805 w/C4. Not sure how many miles it had or how long it has been there. Looked very nice http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. They had parked it next to Land Cruiser in front. I would give them a call. They gave me a good deal on my 04 Tacoma and my Dads 4runner(better than Costco does).

Here is a link
http://www.toyotawc.com/servlets/webSearch?vehicleid=39554352&invdid=30391&url=www. toyotawc.com

You guys are lucky!!!! Lowest quote I found is $23,675.00(I dont know any package they just have one kind of X Runner around here). But the problem is I can have my truck for.......... 7months???!!! The nearest dealer that can shipped the truck for 48hrs is 6 hrs drive from here. I hope Texas just near.

$23,675 is the truck's announced MSRP without floor mats, you're not getting ripped off if you're getting one for that price thats for sure, however for 7 months I think that's over kill...

Seeing as how right now the waiting isn't really because of the overwhelming people placing orders, but rather the SLOW SLOW SLOW production of these trucks... I'm pretty sure you can do way better than 7 months (IMO thats worth a lot with interest) and if you're going to wait THAT long might as well wait for the 2006 revised version if the XR is to see another year..

As for the Costco savings, it's just a gimmick... You really don't need the card, the fleet manager I talked to didn't even care, but it's just that I had a card so there really isn't any significance... However for those that don't know, or deal with a PITA dealer, it's a nice weapon to have as last resort...

Just trying to figure out what they are going for. I have been presented with an offer to buy one and just trying to see if it is really less then the going rate or not.

Also, is ABS standard?

Gadget

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yes abs is standard. i paid 23 805 for mine, which was sticker. i have not seen any go for under sticker. i would highly recomment one, my s/c only prerunner would get blown away by my x !
jon

$23,305

$500 off MSRP fresh off the truck....

Yes ABS is standard... Along with ignition kill...

Did you get it yet Kauss?

I paid MSRP but I got 2k more for my trade than any other dealer would give me. But if I didn't have the trade I would have paid 22,450. It helps when you work at the dealership.

I'm still waiting, but pertty much signed the contract... I'm sorta glad I don't have it yet as it's still raining and I don't want to Zaino it and have it drenched... Probably wouldn't matter but still sucks you know http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

My insurance is through the roof too 2k / year 1K deductable... This is why I'm sorta glad I got a bit of room to save up some of that before I get the truck...

Trust me everyone will know on both forums when my truck comes in http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

BTW KAuss, I've Zainoed in the rain before, and it worked! http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

I'm not worried about it working http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I just don't want my bling blings soaked in water after I work so hard on it you know http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I got a garage anyways, so it wouldn't be done outside where it's hot when it's not raining... I also got a parking lot to park in at work so my Truck would never see bad drivers trying to parrallel park at all http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

So Gadget, are you scheming to get one, or just very very curious?

Yep, sure am...

Gadget

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24k for mine. I got them to come down $400 off msrp. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/clapping.gifGadget with an X-Runner so the R&D will be even quicker http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gifThe best I have been able to talk to the Local dealer is 23,400 with the options I want.They have 4 of them on the lot and every color to chose from.Just need to see if the fellow who wants the S can come through with the money to buy mine.

24k for mine. I got them to come down $400 off msrp. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif



MSRP is 23,805. Did they have a markup on it or any options or accessories installed?

What options ARE there? Last I seen was camper shell, bed mat, and carpets... There isn't anything in the lines of performance as far as the XR goes so any options right now are pretty crappy...

MSRP without mats are $23,675... With C4 (floor mats) comes to $23,805 which should be the MSRP dealers go with because they don't ship without mats, but I do know they do and it just depends if your dealer wants to track one down for you or not...

I sure hope you do get one Gadget... I have no mechanical skills nor tuning ability... Would be damn nice to have someone make the truck worth more than it is and do it right http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

A final tip, just go straight to the fleet manager.. They will always have the lowest rates unless you know the sales manager which is about the same except the fleet deals with internet quotes...

Edit: The funniest thing I've seen tho was a plain black XR (the one I passed up with 47 miles on it) sitting in the showroom of the Fremont dealer... They put same size 18" rims on it that was all chrome and I think same tires... I don't know if the spare matched, but they marked that sucker up $4,999 from $23,805 LOL... Then fleet asked me if I rather take that one... I totally rejected it from the looks of the stupid rims alone, but they hesitated to order my truck and ask me would I be interested if they put the stockers back on... I said I didn't like the mileage and finally they offered to sell it for $600 off MSRP but I thouht the extra mile packaage was not justified for an extra $100...

All I'm saying is, you can get $600 off a showroom truck if you see them sitting there http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Hi, I just took delivery of a Speedway Blue X-Runner here in New Orleans today at 3:00pm that I had on order for a month and a half. I purchased it with the Extra mile package for 23,900.

What is the Extra Mile package?

Gadget

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lol more than a few miles, as in lots of test drives with people like me that beat the truck up a little................or alot.

jon

Ouch!! Extra mile + over MSRP + a month and a half wait...

I guess I'm gonna shut up about my truck not being here yet...

XMan, did you at least get the color you want?

mine had the extra mile package, 100,000 mile tire warrenty with the way I drive is cool) and wheel locks. So far I am very happy with my purchase.

Yes, And I will tell you this. looking at speedway blue on pictures and seeing it in person. It is a badass color for that style. I seen the color on a double cab at the dealership and my wife disliked it alot. I also was on the bubble weather i liked it or not. It came in yesterday and all i can tell you is I am in Heaven. Just for some information, I recieved delivery at 3:00pm drove from New Orleans to Houma a 75 mile trip one way to watch my son in a soccer game and I got Caught up in front of a Christmas parade. You should have seen the people admiring the truck. I honestly will tell you, I got high on that. My daughter got a kick out of it too. By the way my wife was totally displeased with me buying a standard. " She can't drive one" Later

XMan

$500 under sticker, but it had the $600 extra mile package that I didn't want until I realized how stupid they were for the tire warranty that came with that particular extra mile package. $200 credit per tire till I hit 100k miles. That'll cost em' with a 120 treadwear rating. http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Read the warranty, you need to get them rotaded every 5000 miles by Toyota for the warranty to stay valid. If you miss a rotation "warranty void". Still a good deal if you live close to a dealer. Get your oil changed at the same time. If you get your oil changed by toyota it is good for every 5000 miles. At least that is what the service manager and sales manager told me.

Later,
XMan

I'm aware of the warranty and am accustomed to rotating at least that often anyway. My understanding is that it doesn't have to be Toyota that does the rotation though. I'll read the info again to be sure.

Please let me know if you have found the tire warrany different than what the people at the Toyota dealership said that it had to be in order to honor it. I myself have not seen it in writing either way

Thanks,
XMan

I assure you that your warranty isn't contingent upon having any dealership rotate your tires, or for having ANY maintenance work done on your truck. You can do the work, or anybody else can do the work, and as long as it's done correctly and by Toyota's maintenance schedules your warranty stands.

Any warranty-related claim by you will probably have a dealership checking to make certain that you had done your part in maintaining your truck, but they'd have to prove negligence or incompetence on the part of whatever mechanic was involved in working on yout Toy in order to deny your warranty claim. Good records are your best friend, so log all maintenance you or anyone else does.

Or unless you own a Uncle who has his own auto repair shop http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I can get anything in receipt http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Just read the warranty info again and it is dependent on toyota rotating them. not cool, but still worth free tires.

OK, I finally got myself a sale brochure for the Tacoma and I find it a tad confusing.

Other then stuff like floor mats, what options are available on the X-Runner?

Gadget

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there is no options but floor mats. you choose your color.......thats it.

jon

So then it is just pick the color and make the deal.

Maybe the 24th would be a good day to buy one...

Gadget

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The sooner the better bro... I ordered mine day after Thanksgiving and FINALLY they told me 1/10/05...

That is a LONG ass time to wait... If they have like 10 miles on the truck I'm going to go berserk up in there!!!

I just picked mine up like 2 days ago. That silver x-runner was bull. I picked up a black one with XM radio . I didnt want that sh!t though and he said they couldnt remove it ( I didnt mind getting it that much ). Anyways salesman said he was going to give it to me for free but he still charged me another 300 on top off msrp . http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cussing.gif http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cussing.gif I search all over socal for a black x-runner, I couldnt wait any longer and plus I got myself a christmas present. Phuck it.

I got to the finance guy and he tried to add accesories to the X, I told him no and he still made the contract stating that I said yes, trying to add another 25-30 bux to my payment. He shredded the contract and made a new one while he was pissed cause i dnt get anything.... BITCH

Anyways im happy with the purchase and the price. I know. I know. I could of saved about 3-4 dollars but I would of had to wait. The part of getting it now makes up for it in a way.

The one thing I did realize while I called about 20 toyota dealers is that theyll tell you they can get it in about a month or 2-3 weeks but thats not true, they only say that so you can buy it through them...

Cant wait to get the toyota survey, Hes getting a bad survey filled out by ME.

haven't picked it up yet, but i'm paying msrp because there aren't any being produced in jersey.

haven't picked it up yet, but i'm paying msrp because there aren't any being produced in jersey.



There actually are NONE produced in NJ LOL... They're built in Fremont HEHEHEHEHEHEH

:P

there are none being retailed in jersey.. that better? http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I got mine 2 weeks ago and i payed the msrp which was 23,805 down here in southern cali

Congratulations. Nice truck.

nice truck do you like it? http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

well i was about to pay 22,600 for mine but i wanted to get some 20s on it and it came out to be 24,200 and the sticker was 26,700 with the rims

Thanks guys for all your responces.

I got my X last week and paid less then sticker, but it took some fancy talking....

Gadget

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I love my new truck though i do wish it had more power in first gear. but all the other gears hall ass even in 6th. but i got a call from a local dealer who just got one in so i wanted to go see what they were selling it for and thy wanted 30,205 stock so i'm happy i got mine when i could.

Most everywhere they are going for sticker. I got mine for a bit less then sticker, but it took some doing and a few URD business cards.

Don't pay more then sticker. Not one dime more. Don't let them tack on any crap either like processing fees.

Gadget

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toyota of ORANGE has 2 X-runners. i stop by on the 22 dec the had none. i gaved them my number and told them to call me when one comes in. i got a call sat 8 around 7:30pm sales guy said they had just unloaded 2 x-runners and he wanted to give me the first chance at them. So i get down there and sure thing they had 2 xrunners One BLACK and the other RED.So i drove down there and test drove the red one i could drive it hard since it was raining i did notice the traction sucked in the rain. anyhow they want 23.934 for each one.I told them i would come back in the morning to take a look at the numbers. But they made it hard for me to leave there that night around 8:30 with out looking at the numbers anyhow with 2000 down my payments would be 450 for 72 months witch didnt sound good to me so i told them.Ill came back in the morning and ill think about it that night. the reason i was only giving them only 2 grand was because my bro wants to buy my 99" civic Si that i was going to trade in since the kelly blue book on it is around 7000 and i was going ask the dealer only for 5 and i was going to give them 2 cash. making my down payment 7000 and hopefully dropping my monthly payment down to high 300 for less months. anyhow i never when in that morning they called me later in the afternoon and said they would work with me to get me in this truck i told them i was not interested anyomore because originally i was looking for the hard to find BLUE X-runner and if i was going to pay so much a month i would only do so for the truck i really wanted.Anyhow they called me today around noon saying that there manager would drop the price of the truck to 21800 to make me color blind. I told i have already purchased a speedway blue X-Runner from EL CAJON toyota for 23500 with satellite radio i got a good deal down there since my credit union help me purchase the truck.ANYHOW anyone willing to SETTLE for A BLACK or RED X-RUNNER TOYOTA OF ORANGE ON TUSTIN AVENUE HAS 2 sitting in there lot as of NOON TODAY

Only if they had blue I would be there in the morning!!! Looks like the wait is still on till the end of the month when my blue come off the truck. This fawking dealer better have it or someone is going to loose there nuts!!!!

Holy FAWK!!! 21,800? Thats lower than invoice man...

I guess they can do that since they expect you to pay > 60 months... They make that back with intrest...

I am pay off my truck all at once... Then I gotta pay my mom back whatever she's chipping in... I'm in the haul for 3 years...

I'm gonna see if they can knock off another $100 or 2 the day I pick up my truck... Nothing like word of mouth advertisement from a "satisfied" customer... Especially one that is an attention whore online HAHAHAH

Im guessing that they now know that the most popular X runner color is the speedway blue so like i said that guy said he would lower the cost of the truck 21800 and also throw in premium mats what ever that is and free oil changes. i got a good deal at the other dealer ship down in el cajon since my credit union help me with the purchase. im paying the credit union 340 a month.

Im guessing that they now know that the most popular X runner color is the speedway blue so like i said that guy said he would lower the cost of the truck 21800 and also throw in premium mats what ever that is and free oil changes. i got a good deal at the other dealer ship down in el cajon since my credit union help me with the purchase. im paying the credit union 340 a month.



Yeah but you know regardless of color... 21K is WAY under invoice for that truck.. Invoice is 22K something... I think you're getting lucky and they're pricing it as a prerunner? It is so rediculous that they think they can't sell the trucks when IMO not everyone wants the blue... That truck is definately NOT going to rot on the lot like some of the other models...

I would jump all over that price man... 21K is killer... No one would be able to beat that price dude...

Invoice for the X is $21,203. I got that from several different sources.

Gadget

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Actually you're right, but still dang, $21,8xx I'd be all over it...

Anyone from the board go down to TOYOTA of orange and taken a look at those 2 X RUNNER sitting there. My friend works there he said since i been there only 2 peeps tried to get it but the both didnt qualify for it anyone from this boardS!!!!
I been having problems with my X RUNNER in all the time driving i driven manual transmission cars. For some reason im having problem with the X cant find first and the thows are long keep stalling out.And that god dam seat wont stop making noise. Also noticed that traction sucks in the rain.

Yea, that shifter is AMU. Mine kind of would grind down shifting to first. It loosened up a bit and is not to bad now.

My complaint is the gate is way to narrow between 3rd and 5th. and 6th and 4th. I still end up in the wrong gear way to much. Like if I am in 6th and want to down shift to 5th it likes to end up in 3rd. It just should not be like that.

On my 4Runner with the 5 speed and the B&M shifter that bearly moves, I never miss a gear, ever. The difference in the throws is sickening.

Then there is that damn seat rattle....

You mentioned about lack of traction in the rain. I have been very pleasently suprised about how much traction I do have in the rain. I thought the truck would be all over the place, but it seems to do really well in the rain. As a test I stuff the brakes on wet roads in the rain and was totally suprised how much those tires grabbed and stopped the truck. They are pretty sticky for a stock truck. Probably won't last 6 months...

Other then those slight deficencies, the truck is really outstanding.

Gadget

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Damn now you're getting the seat rattle too Gadget? Sigh... I might as well plan on getting some racing seats too then, but I don't like how they feel on long trips, and don't look right without a real harness...

As for the 6th to 5th thing, are you not pushing it against the ride side? I've been driving nothing but stock shifters in all my cars, so the truck's throws aren't that long, especially compared to my Integra... I had no problems shifting all over the place but I'll see tomorrow... I just remember shfiting into 2nd almost does a miniature grind like going into reverse in most cars without going into a forward gear... That shocked me a little but I didn't mind it...

Are we definate the rattle is the seat tho?

First off, let me apologize if this is a repost. I'm heading out to Monterey so I don't have sufficient time to search if there is already a post about this out there.

I'm just wondering how much you guys have been paying for your X Runners. Just in case I even get a chance at an X. Also how much you guys put down and what your rate/mo. payment is [if that's not too personal to ask]

Thanks!
tam

most people seem to be paying right about msrp, maybe a little under. monthly payment will depend greatly on your credit.

After taxes and everything I think mine was like 23,500

haha no way. taxes and stuff add 10% that would mean you got it much under invoice.....you mean 23500 then tAX?

I got under invoice...truck had 100miles on it..So they took like 1200 off the price of the truck and maybe a tad more

21,500 for my X....has anyone paid lower?

i'm gonna put my total i otd at 2.........nevermind i paid a lot http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

21500 then add the toyogaurd, mats and taxes and i was out

Kev

WOW...I think I must have paid too much for mine...but then again there was a Dealership in Houston, TX that was trying to sell a black XR for 28,900~bastards! But I ended getting my XR at a near by dealership. So really I paid MSRP...but it was worth it!...Plus it also helps that I get my oil changes and have my truck washed and my a$$ kissed for 9.95 for as long as I have the truck~which was the same deal that I had when i bought my Jeep Liberty.... http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
BUT!!! My husband and I are looking forward to having some modifications done to it....he's getting that evil look in eyes everytime he talks about the possibilities on the XR... http://www.CustomTacos.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evil.gif

Just to clear things up MSRP BEFORE freight is $23,110 and invoice is $21,203. So if you get the truck at or below invoice you got a kick ass deal. I paid 1000.00 below MSPR or about 22.1K + 500 or so for the destination charge.

I paid MSRP...but I got my trade in at 13,000 when the trade in value is only $11,800....this was part of the deal....we were starting to crunch numbers and I just straight out said...If you give me $13,000 for the car I'll pay retail....it worked...and I am happy....now I am just waiting for the X....